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My Sister-in-law just started showing symptoms of TN about
2-3 weeks ago. Since a couple of days before Christmas she has
slept just a couple of hours at a time due to the pain. The
doctor has diagnosed it as TN and has recommended surgery, with
the possibility of poralysis. He has also indicated this could be
the beginnings of multiple scherosis. Non of the pain medications
seem to be doing much except building up her tolerance to them. I
would love to hear from knowledgeable people on the subject, as
she is scared an information is comforting. Thank you!
Bob Crowther <CRPEDYM@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 10:12:12 (PST)
HI my name is Jean and I would really like to know if there
are any effective treatments that can make you pain free from
Trigeminal Neuralgia I do not have a very severe condition, I am
42 years old and believe it happened after I had a root canal
procedure. I only have it in the left side of my face,Thank- You
Jean Perri <Jean@ouixnet.net>
USA - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 16:41:23 (PST)
HI my name is Jean and I would really like to know if there
are any effective treatments that can make you pain free from
Trigeminal Neuralgia I do not have a very severe condition, I am
42 years old and believe it happened after I had a root canal
procedure. I only have it in the left side of my face,Thank- You
Jean Perri <Jean@ouixnet.net>
USA - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 16:41:06 (PST)
HI my name is Jean and I would really like to know if there
are any effective treatments that can make you pain free from
Trigeminal Neuralgia I do not have a very severe condition, I am
42 years old and believe it happened after I had a root canal
procedure. I only have it in the left side of my face,Thank- You
Jean Perri
USA - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 16:38:54 (PST)
dear sir,i am suffering from pain on my tongue,idid went to
many spesialist they did'nt do any thing at all,y just give pills
and said try this it may work i went to see neorologist after
halph an hour he told me that in your head i was mad like hell
many dr. if they dont know the symptom ewill tell that in your
head,tyey did bibcy on my tongue the result was you have no
cancer but mild inflemation,i said give me something he injuct me
with cortizon last for few hour,after the problem start all
over,i am telling you i went and so many dr,not funny now
somebody gave me paxil, beside yhe paxil iam takeing ativan
2mg.twice adayand ihave this problem comes and goes for about 30
years years to have dry mocse i use to panik,now burning on the
tip of my tongue give me headace, if possible to recomend to
something iiiiiiiiand i wll ask so called dr.and i thank you deep
from my heart. karl seferian
KARL SEFERIAN <karl.takovideotrone.ca>
montreal, qc USA canada - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 04:51:29
(PST)
I want to wish all of you a very merry Christmas. I had the
MVD surgery on the 15 of December 1999...just 10 days ago! I feel
terrific!!! It's hard for me to control my excitement. After
suffering from TN for 7 years I didn't truly believe I'd ever be
pain free again. I surprised my surgeon by having both an artery
and a vein on the nerve. He had not seen that before. Once again,
thank you Deb for having this page for people like us. If it
hadn't been for you and the information you supplied I would not
be feeling this great today and looking forward to the years to
come with great joy.
Mary Sitton <comatose_sitton@yahoo.com>
Townsend, Mt USA - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 08:15:56 (PST)
Would love to talk to anyone who has has MVD surgery,
please email me or contact me via icq 12800604
Audrey <leggggggs@lnett.com>
Ely, nv USA - Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:27:31 (PST)
I have had trigeminal neuralgia for the last l4 to l5 years
and have a surgical procedure to where my nerves on the entire
right side of my face had been burnt. I had to have the procedure
done six times. I was told I had a very acute case of TN.
Tegretol worked the best for me but the worst part of that was
that it destroyed my white blood cells and I caught phnemonia
over and over so that ended that. In 1987 and 1988 after my sixth
surgery I was without pain for many years. My vision in my right
improved greatly - - no-one could tell me why. A couple of years
ago my pain has started to comeback, especially in my eyes and my
ears. Every once in a while I will have facial pain. Two years
ago I got a touch of pnemonia and my primary care physician
prescribed ZITHROMAX. It worked real well for the cure and kept
my TN pain gone for about six months. I have used zithromax on
several occasions and it seems to help real well. I also had an
MRI two years ago and my neurosurgeon explained to me that my 5th
8th and 12th were so bad that the only choice I had if the pain
came back constantly was to have my nerves burnt again. I decided
to suffer since the procedure is so painful. I did try baclofen
for a while but it did not help very much. I would love to hear
from someone or everyone on any new ideas or news of medical
break thru of whatever. Would love to hear from someone in my
city of state and any to TN groups. weinhorn@gateway.net
Walter M. Einhorn <weinhorn@gateway.net>
Albuquerque, NM USA - Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 18:41:09
(PST)
although i do not suffer from your pain my best friend does
im searching for help for her.she is on numours drugs for
variying things ie: the teeth thing etc . she stays away from
triggers as in chocolate caffine etc i never new what a real
migrane was until i found her under her bed affraid of light
sound and puking! She has been to neurologist,had mri,blood
tests,teeth checked(does have problems ie. root canals etc) i
have never seen this before she is on antidepresents and
neutortin,depokit,celexa,verapamil,premeren,are they over
medicating her the only thing that stops it is a trip to er they
give her demeroll and send her home (maybe with vicoden) this is
insane how can i help her. Her doc wont give her narc.s i dont
want her on them she has tried electric shock treatment. home
thearpy with herbs. the only way i have seen to make them stop is
with narcotics i dont want her to do them but it is what works
does any one have alternative methods? please help my friend i
dont know what to do for her she is a mother of 3 and takes care
of my child for me while i work. this is the first time i have
ever seen anyone with the same symptms this is amazing that she
has i had no idea that it even had a name i dont want my friend
well she is family i love her and i want to help her she has a
child with ada so she is pushed to the limit daily please anyone
give advice recommend doc. treatment. thearapy.anything thanks
for your time and the space babbs
barbra <bhart92435@aol.com>
seattle, wa USA - Friday, December 17, 1999 at 01:54:40 (PST)
I can relate to the extent of the pain. I also struggle
with the side-effects of the medications. It feels like I can't
win no matter what I do. I can't believe there is no cure for
this!!!!
Deirdre <hemsing@compusmart.ab.ca>
Canada - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 16:34:05 (PST)
i was just diagnosed with tn please someone email me the
pain is the most terrible thing i,ve ever experianced i need to
talk to someone PLEASE
bobby <hairman@midwest.net>
il USA - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 18:44:50 (PST)
i was just diagnosed with tn it is the most horrible pain
i,ve ever been through please someone email me i need to talk to
someone going through the same thing as me.
bobby martin <hairman@midwest.net>
cairo, il USA - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 18:42:05 (PST)
Still miserable after two years and lots of medication!
Peggy Fink <Peg8212@aol.com>
Seaford, NY USA - Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 19:25:53 (PST)
I have had GN for over 10 years and TN for over 3 years. I
have tried many medications, inavasive procedures, homeopathic
herbs, etc., and I've had 4 brain operations. Three in 1992, one
in 1997 -Neucleus Chaldalis Neucleotomy with C1, C2 Laminectomy.
My medical condition has not become dormant nor ever completely
stable. If you need someone to talk to that has a lot of
experience with GN and TN, I'd be happy to listen or help in way.
Maureen <mah99@mediaone.net>
NH USA - Thursday, December 09, 1999 at 22:17:57 (PST)
I am taking Darvocet N100 after spine surgery to reduce
pain in my lower back, legs, knees, ankles and feet with not
positive results only excess of weakness and I fall asleep for 10
or more hours. I ignore if this pills contain Morphine or similar
??? If someone can help me plese I am open to hear from you
Prisciliano G Barragan Male-62 Years - Edinburg, Texas 78539
PRISCILIANO G BARRAGAN <prigbar@acnet.net>
Edinburg, TX USA - Thursday, December 09, 1999 at 18:20:24 (PST)
I have TMJ and I would love to talk to someone with this
same problem. thanks
Renee <ajrj@penn.com>
USA - Thursday, December 09, 1999 at 15:59:41 (PST)
does anyone have any info on atypical trigeminal neuralgia?
I have that and the typical type. I've been on all the meds. I'm
now on Neurontin & Baclofen. It helps some but less &
less all the time. I've had it for 2 yrs. now. Any help is
appreciated. Thanks in advance. Dee
Dee <budanddd>
denver, co. USA - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 16:39:14 (PST)
I'm sure some of you visiting here have had MVD. I too had
this procedure done for GPN. I'm wondering if those of you that
have had surgery would let me know how long the recouperation
time was. I'm still very tired, with scar pain, I've lost 12
lbs., and not exactly doing the "dance" I'd love to be
performing. It has been 8 weeks since the 7 hour operation. My
doctor says be patient, but, I'd still like to hear from those of
you that have had the operation.
Sandra Bridgeman <slywise@aol.com>
Hillsdale, NJ USA - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 20:28:06 (PST)
HI, I WAS TOLD BY MY DOCTOR THAT I HAVE T.N. 4 DAYS AGO AND
PUT ON TEGRETAL. THE PAST TWO MONTHS I HAVE HAD PAIN IN MY FACE.
NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT T.N. I WENT TO A DENTIST SAYING THAT I
HAD PAIN AND IF HE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS THAT I WOULD
NEED TO GO TO A DOCTOR. WELL, TWO WISDOM TEETH LATER AND STILL IN
THE MOST UNBEARABLE PAIN FOR MY 30 YEARS I HAVE EVER BEEN IN, I
ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM OVER THANKSGIVING. I WAS PUT ON
TEGRETAL AND AM NOW DEALING WITH DIZZINESS,ETC. BUT IT REALLY IS
COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND THE PAIN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS WEB SITE.
LaCHEL McCOLLAR
STURGIS, SD USA - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 17:31:07 (PST)
Although I have been diagnosed as having this thing they
call TN, I am reminded of the other medical situations GOD has
seen me through. We all can find something to be thankfull for
every thing that we have encountered in the past. About a year
ago, I thought I had a tooth giving me a fit. Later I found out
that it wasn't a tooth but TN that was giving me this
"electric shock" at random. I am now on Tegretol
starting two days ago. The Bible says that Gods grace is
sufficient and I believe the Bible. God has healed alot worse
things than this. He will hear my prayers and I am believing in
his touch soon. Connie
Connie <Double_D_Santee>
Manning, sc USA - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 14:12:44 (PST)
This week I was diagnosed with TN, although I suspect I
have had it for over 6 months. I am in no way a wimp, my first
child was just shy of 12 lbs, and I had him naturally. But, I can
tell you this, there is nothing that can prepare you for the
horrendous pain of this disease. Never before in my life have I
felt such intense pain. It is impossible to explain to someone
not suffering with TN. My job requires me to be on a microphone,
talking non stop. I have to find some pain managing techniques,
and quickly. The medication I am on is helping a little, but not
near well enough for me to keep performing my duties for any
great length of time. If anyone out there can help, I would
greatly appreciate it. Also, I would be very receptive to
starting a support group in my area for TN sufferers (what an
understatement) if there is enough interest. Please contact me at
probably_not_interested@yahoo.com
Robyn Berry <probably_not_interested@yahoo.com>
Courtenay, BC Canada - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 08:54:14
(PST)
Hi, I was working durring the Thanksgiving holiday and my
tounge went numb, and it was very difficult for me to talk. Then
it got better. So they took me to the hospital and said that it
was eiter Bells Pasly, complex migrain, pregnancy, or mynthasia.
My doctor put me on medication wich I was elegic to. Well, I have
gone to the doctors and done my MRI, EGG, and cat scan, but
nothing is wrong....but there is something wrong- It comes and it
goes, and I feel completly helpless. Can anybody who is out there
help me? Let me know what the doctor did for you? Thankyou- anika
Anika Zabokrtsky <fortzabo@cs.com>
Seattle, wa USA - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 14:57:48 (PST)
A very interesting site, I think I learned a thing or two.I
gave Peggy Glass a call and we talked a while about people with
TN. I filled out the survey page.After reading some of those
letters. I see there are a lot of TN people,all over the world.
William Wavak <billwav@juno.com>
Westmont, IL USA - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 12:10:31 (PST)
Incapasitated from working, family, and enjoyment. Pain
still excrciating. Always looking for help. Three surgeries, diet
change, last 30 years have been Hell on earth.
Larry Ward <Doc231@Juno.com>
IN USA - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 09:28:19 (PST)
HELP! I am an administrator in a middle school. this year a
great new grade 6 student joined our school. She has Arnold
Chiari Brain Malformation and is struggling to pay attention, be
organized and be successful. I need to be in contact with anyone
who has experience with kids in school. Any help would be
appreciated.
John G. Acerra <jacerra@beth.k12.pa.us>
Bethlehem, PA USA - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 08:52:28 (PST)
I was diagnosed about 2 years ago. Put on Tegretol. Worked
great until yesterday (11/28/99). Took medicine as usual, but the
pain attacked anyway. Still here today, but now constant sharp
ache in left temple. Used to come and go before starting
medicine. I started using a new small neck pillow about a week
ago. Could this have brought it on? Also had a bad cold with a
persistent and deep cough. Maybe that was the cause. All I know
is that I hurt. I found some Vicodin from previous illness, took
1/2 of one. That makes the pain just a bit more bearable. I guess
I will have to call the Dr. if this keeps up. It sure does make
life miserable. Thanks for letting me vent. Sure hope there is a
cure for this soon. (short of surgery that is) Is there anyone
else in the South Bend/Mishawaka or northern IN area who has this
too? I'd like to talk to you or e-mail. It is so hard for anyone
else to understand the pain.
Marie Manczunski <marie5432@webtv.net>
South Bend, IN USA - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 12:52:20 (PST)
My Mother has had TN for several years. She has had some
relief off and on with Tegretol, and MVD surgery. In the past few
weeks, she has experienced very frequent, intense attacks of pain
on both sides of her face and especially in her nose. She has
reached the point where she is on the maximum dose of Tegretol,
is completely bedridden, and will not eat much of anything. She
is taking all steps that she feels is necessary to avoid the
pain, even though now nothing works. Several days ago she had
another surgery (the needle and balloon procedure) to attempt to
relieve the pain. She experienced another series of attacks the
evening after her second surgery. My Mother has been very strong
in dealing with this terrible disease, but she is wearing down.
Medication and surgeries are no longer working. My question is:
HAS ANYONE HAD THE TRIGEMINAL NERVE CUT? I have read much about
procedures to damage the nerve to lessen the pain, but have read
very little about cutting the nerve. My wife has a great uncle
who has TN and had the nerve cut over twenty five years ago
(Tegretol and other procedures were not available) and he is
living pain free even today! My Mother's pain is so great that
I'm sure she would much rather live with the side effects
(permanent numbness, facial paralysis, etc.) than deal with the
TN pain. I welcome any comments about actual results of
"cutting the nerve" and possible side effects. Thank
you and may God bless all of you!
G. Reynolds <gsssrey@juno.com>
USA - Sunday, November 28, 1999 at 09:21:31 (PST)
Hello. I, too, have been a sufferer of Atypical TN for the
past 10 years now. It started when I had an abcessed tooth opened
by my endodontist. The nest morning, upon rising, I couldn't see
through my bleeding retinas. My head was pounding and I vomited
frequently. I was rushed to the hospital and was in intensive
care for days. The doctors diagnosed "sagittal sinus
thrombosis", or, in other words, a venous stroke due to a
blood clot which traveled to my brainstem. During this time, I
began to notice the intense, burning, yet gnawing pain over my
right eyebrow, cheekbone, forehead and the back of my neck. It
was constant, not intermittent. I tried for years to communicate
this to my doctors, and was told endlessly that there was nothing
that no one could do for me. Finally, several years later, a
neurologist came to the facility which I frequented and worked at
as a therapist. She recommended that I take Tegretol, and
Neurontin. Tegretol made me grossly fatigued, to the point in
which I had difficulty driving. Neurontin helped slightly. These
attacks were waxing and waning, cropping up when I had to have
dental work. Oh, I dreaded the dentist. I had to have analgesics
prescribed everytime I had to have dental procedures done. The
pain was agonizing. Finally, I just tried to accept the pain and
discomfort. When I had a significant "attack', I would try
to get to the nearest emergency room for a scan or treatment. I
think I was beginning to become a "pest" since no one
could give me permanent relief. I was only in my mid-thirties,
trying to practice, raise a family and just live. After an
angiogram, the doctor reported that I had had a stroke in the
midbrain. One doctor informed me that I had Multiple sclerosis;
the other one said I did not. Finally, after some visual evoked
potentials, and other tests, it was determined that the pons in
my midbrain had lesions on it. Perhaps this is significant. Also,
there is a perivascular area in the pons. Today, with my latest
attack from the TN, I am looking forward to seeing a specialist
soon in another state. I know that I've been told I have atypical
neuralgia, but it is one of the worst "pains" I believe
I have ever suffered. I, like everyone else on this board, just
wants relief, long-term, and to be able to live a normal life
again. Thanks for hearing the "condensed" version of my
ATN story. I really need to consider more options besides
medication.
Ellen (Elle) Murray <elmurray@mindspring.com>
Hoover, AL USA - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 17:43:37 (PST)
I was diagnosed with TN in July of this year. I am 25 years
old. I am currently taking 600mg of Tegretol, and 1200mg of
Neurontin throughout the day. I have had very few days that have
been pain free and several flare ups in this short time that have
brought the dosages of these two medications to where they are.
Not to mention I have noticed already how unpleasant the side
effects are of these medications are. After gaining 20 lbs. since
starting the medication I have taken it upon myself to start
exercising on a daily basis, no matter how much it kills me.
After exercising I notice that not only am I pain free for a
short time, but there is absoultely no tension in that side of my
face at all. I am curious if anyone has experieced success from
acupunture and if so for how long?
Kelly McGovern <kmcgovern@hritl.com>
NY USA - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 11:06:25 (PST)
Hi, I am trying to help my mother who has suffered from TN
for many years. She uses Tegretol and has a total of two
operations to date. My question is has anyone used or heared of
anyone using Magnets to get relief from the pain of TN. I would
really love to hear from anyone who has any knowledge about this
be it positive or negative. Thanking you in advance.
Bruce <cruikshank@acncanada.net>
Canada - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 09:34:21 (PST)
Hi, My sister Maura has had TN for quite some time and i
just happened to find your page by accident.Keep up the good
work. Please add me to your info list. Best Regards, Madge
Madge Kavanagh <madge.kavanagh@agtec.ie>
Dublin, Ireland - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 05:26:34 (PST)
My father-in-law with TN had shingles in September '99 and
began having his TN pains in October '99. Does anyone have
information that could link the shingles as a possible cause for
the TN? He has been in the hospital for 6 days now for the TN and
liver problems (believed to be from the Tegretol), and yesterday
he broke out with the chicken pox. He is 66 years old. He is on
Nuerotin now, with little success it seems. He is hoping to try
surgery soon with hopes of relief from his unbearable pain. My
heart goes out to all the people who are suffering from this
disorder. God bless you...you are all in my prayers.
Andrea Castleberry <acastleberry23@hotmail.com>
B'ham, AL USA - Wednesday, November 17, 1999 at 11:19:40 (PST)
Thank you so much for this web page! I was diagnosed with
TN in July of 1999 and went on tegretol. Couldn't stand the side
effects but the pain was lessened(with occasional breakthroughs).
Took myself of because of the double vision and the pain seemed
to subside. Just found out I am pregnant(I'm a 30 yr.old female)
and the symptoms are returning full-force. Don't know what to do
or where to turn. Has anyone out there gone through a pregnancy
with this pain? Please e-mail me if you have any suggestions.
Also, does anyone know which neurosurgeons in ny/ct perform MVD?
thanx
Leanne Rozelle <PRozelle1@aol.com>
New Milford, CT USA - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 20:23:23 (PST)
My father-in-law has recently been diagnosed with TN and
has many questions. Thank you for your web page! Great
information!
Andrea Castleberry
AL USA - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 10:16:59 (PST)
Im a 29 year old female with Trigeminal Neuralgia and Im
looking for some hope. After a car accident in 1988, having my
face eggshelled, reconstructive surgery with lots of metal in my
face, migraine headaches, 16 root canals in the past 5 years,
tmj, now I have this. So what now? Im hoping some miracle will
happen beacuse I feel sorry for my family. They are supportive
but I know they dont understand, how can they when I dont! I just
feel bad beacuse I feel like theres always something wrong, and I
dont want this to take over my life, and my attention, and it is.
Im looking for something, anything, Hope!
Shannon <Lilseeds@aol.com>
MD USA - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 03:36:54 (PST)
Hi. I have had TN for over a year now. I was on Tegretol,
but it became ineffective and I developed a rash. My doc put me
on Neurontin and I am up to 1600 mg. I seem to have both TN and
Atypical TN. The meds help the classic TN jolts of electric pain
but my constant residual pain around my nose and mouth continues
to burn. It has even increased. I am unable to talk for even
short periods of time without pain. I have had to stop work (as a
Gr. 4 teacher, I talk for a living). I am interested in any
alternative therapies. I have tried many things, but continue to
seek help in conventional and unconventional ways. If anyone has
had any success through surgeries, or any other way, in treating
the constant pain of atypical TN, please e-mail me or post on
this site. This is my first time here, and I am very grateful to
have it. Thank you to Deb!
wendy <crawford@macn.bc.ca>
Parksville, BC Canada - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 15:12:29
(PST)
I have TN diagnosed in 1990, and in 1991, I had a
craniotomy to cut the nerve. Since that time, I can eat, smile,
talk, etc. My biggest problem is any cool air, which in the
summer is really bad with all the airconditioning. I am now
working from home, which is helping lots. I wear a brown knit
scarf over my head and face when I go in buildings, and get so
many "comments" about it not being cold, etc. Does
anyone have any other suggestions for coping with the cool air?
Also I am taking Tegretol but having so many problems trying to
get in enough to really help. It makes my vision so blurry. If
anyone has any suggestions to help me with this, I would really
appreciate it. It is to good to know others with this problem. I
do feel so alone. People at work, when I had to go in to work and
still have to go for about four hours a month, do not understand
and tell me it is not cold. That day I have to go in, I come home
in severe pain for the rest of the day. Does anyone else have
problem with the cool air? Thanks
Beth Frye <bethfrye@aol.com>
Memphis, TN USA - Saturday, November 06, 1999 at 22:55:51 (PST)
The other day I submitted a narrative, but I have not found
that it has been added to the guest book, so.... here goes again.
I have had TN for about 5 years. Spent 4 years on Tegretol,
climaxing with 2400 mg. per day and still having excruciating
pain. April of 98 I went to a neurosurgeon for MVD surgey. He
talked my husband and me out of that and into a RF Rhizotomy.
Terrible mistake. Anyone out there considering this procedure
DON'T. I was NOT anesthetized for much of the procedure, which
was torturous. I wanted to die. After the surgery, I was left
with terrible swelling and bruising all over my face. My right
eye did not tear for 2 months,and throbbed constantly My right
ear canal was swollen shut for several months, and ached
constantly. My face was and is numb from the middle of my mouth
to my ear, along the jawline. Half my lower lip, half my tongue
and teeth and gums are affected. From April to October I was in
constant pain. At one point I was told I had temporary TMJ, but
mostly the surgeon responded as though nothing was wrong and that
I should be satisfied with the procedure. As early as Jan. 99 I
experienced pain that was intermittent but managable. The
beginning of Sept. brought back the TN pain full force. I finally
went to a new neurologist (didn't want to return to the one who
had me on 2400 mg. of Tegretol per day!) and am now on Neurontin.
I have read conflicting reports of its effectiveness and
problems. So far no problems, but not much relief either. It has
relieved my more severe episodes, but still can't talk, eat, wash
or brush teeth like a normal person. I am determined to have MVD
surgery and would appreciate input and information from anyone
who has already had the procedure. I know it is serious brain
surgery, but I won't become a zombie again, gain weight like
crazy, and have chronic pain if there is relief available, and I
believe the MVD represents that relief. Anything anyone can share
regarding this surgery would be welcome and appreciated greatly.
God bless us all.
Gail Bragg <Gospel316@aol.com>
Tx. USA - Saturday, November 06, 1999 at 18:22:24 (PST)
I HAVE HAD TN FOR 12 YEARS AND HAVE TAKEN UP TO 1600 MG. OG
TEGEROTAL AND 900 MG. OF NEURONTIN A DAY. THIS PAST JAN. I WAS
STILL HAVING PAIN EVEN WITH ALL OF THE MEDICATION. I WAS REFERRED
TO A TERRIFIC NEUROSURGEON WHO PERFORMED THE MICROVASCULAR
DECOMPRESSION SURGERY ON ME. I HAVE HAD NO PAIN ON THE RIGHT SIDE
OF MY FACE SINCE THE DAY OF SURGERY. UNFORTUNATELY I STARTED
HAVING PAIN ON THE LEFT SIDE OF MY FACE BUT 600 MG. OF TEGERATOL
KEEPS THE PAIN UNDER CONTROL. AT LEAST I AM NOT IN A FOG OF
MEDICATION ANYMORE. SUE
Sue <misssue@ix.netcom.com>
Chicago, Il USA - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 19:08:53 (PST)
I had a wisdom tooth that was stucked in recent molar
extraction with the roots embedded in my sinus tissue maxiliar,
after outpatient surgery and not able to complete procedure due
to poor local anesthesia tolerance. I felt when I was being open
on the bottom right side and oral surgeon had to abort procedure.
as the wisdom tooth was extracted on the first intervention I
then started to have severe pain more increasingly then when I
first visited the oral surgeon,went home and has I started to
drink liquids, all the liquids would flow out of my right nostril
to top it all off I also ended up with a dry socket meaning blood
cloth was wipe away after surgery leaving my bone exposed to
excrutiating and trobbing pain to my ear cheek bone and sinus. I
went back to the dr and he never told me that this would be a
complication wrap with an extraction of a right wisdom tooth and
he wanting to take them all out at age 41 when I was originally
complaining of the right upper wisdom tooth. It been a month and
2 days that I have been under pain killers as percoset tylenol
with codinel and during the day every two hours with 1/2 of these
portions of medication so that I can subside the pain. I want to
know what are the long term consequences or damages if any when
your sinus maxiliar tissue has been ruptured and if a nueoralgia
pain can develop due to nerve damage from the close part of the
ear lobe. I have not been able to find an opinion as to the cause
and effect of what was perfrom on me without my constent due the
operation documents were falsified after the fact that I signed a
different document and feel my signature was stolen and placed on
a document that was never explained to me. Do I have to suffer
the imcompetence of a so called renowed Oral maxiofacial surgeon,
that has raped me from my quality of life and that he can so
easily change documents a tip of his finger without no
consequences? Thanks for your attention and excuse my spell
check. any advise is well appreciated. I feel abused from the way
I trusted a person that just happen to study a few years more
then me. Please help or refer me to a meaningful person that can
and will help do justice for others that may encounter this
situation. This has to STOP! PR
Ivonne Medina <OCEAN1@COQUINET.COM>
USA - Tuesday, November 02, 1999 at 17:02:12 (PST)
i had to go off the neurontin ...it wasn't doing a thing
ex- cept lifting my mood...back on the tegretol..3x a day..plus
anti-depressant. the tegretol makes me so sleepy...i wake up in
the morning as fast as possible just to take my pill! any- one
who would like to e-mail me, i would be happy to write back.
would love to know just how many people suffer from this as my
husband says that the number is too small for any research to be
done on this...he's a dr.too.don't get surgery and don't get your
teeth pulled...none of that works!
beth johnstone <beth.johnstone@juno.com>
houston, tx USA - Monday, November 01, 1999 at 08:41:43 (PST)
My nightmare began in a general dentist's chair following a
root canal procedure. A Texas dentist injected some
"medicine" into my tooth canal and severe pain and
infection immediately followed. I lost my voice, and my news
anchoring job. The pain almost drove me to take my life. I was
turned away from many doctors and the emergency room. Finally
after seeting 25-30 specialists I was diagnosed with possible TN
or more likely, atypical facial pain. A story on Prime Time Live
in the early 90s told of a bunch of Texas dentists that performed
the "Sargenti Method"--a seminar procedure where they
injected a substance, I believe it was formaldehyde, into the
canal. Years before that, though, I had already had three upper
teeth on my right side root canaled, roots clipped and finally
those teeth pulled. My endodontist told me when he clipped the
roots he saw "a lot of granulated tissue,whatever that
means. I assume horrific damage. It's been 15 years and I'm now
on Neurontin and one .05 xanax a day. I just came off a 10-day
attack and my face is still throbbing. The pain is right above
where the problem tooth was. The other teeth didn't need to be
pulled; none of them did. I also wore braces in my 30s which did
little. I had four sinus surgeries, including a maxilla
antrostomy, something like that, and a septaplasty (sic). Has
anyone ever heard of the Sargenti Method causing this syndrome,
or had dental procedures linked to their TN? Surgery is not an
option for me at this time. In my case, onset was the same day as
the original root canal, which, as I've said, was not a typical
procedure where the root is removed. I found years ago that no
dentist would implicate another in his dental brotherhood, and to
this day, I have no resolution. I never saw my MRI, but in 1989
my otorhinolaryncologist told me he thought I might have had
damage done to my sinus wall. Please write back if you have any
information on this.
Brenda Moore <dkeeble@swbell.net>
USA - Saturday, October 30, 1999 at 19:48:39 (PDT)
It took three years to diagnose
Brenda Moore <dkeeble@swbell.net>
Oklahoma City, OK USA - Saturday, October 30, 1999 at 19:26:22
(PDT)
I am wondering if anyone is suffering from vulva dystrophy
or lichen scelerosis? How are you being treated and is it
helping.
Peggy Parker <laceangelmaker@mindspring.com>
Charlotte, NC USA - Thursday, October 28, 1999 at 17:34:42 (PDT)
i am looking for information on prozac and it's side
affects and addictiveness. this information is for my mother in
law who has been on this medication for quite some time now and
recently had the dosage increased. if you can find any
information on this medication please send it to me as soon as
possible. thank you for your time!! seriously looking---amanda
amanda <BabyBluEyz4999>
USA - Wednesday, October 27, 1999 at 22:31:26 (PDT)
Hi All!..I've had TN-in V2 for the last 2 yrs...don't want
surgery and have found no medications (so far!) do very
much..we're all involved with some other support groups; but you
may wan to check out actiononpain.org...a really wonderful
network, dedicated to helping all pain patients get to the help
they need!
Ellen Braun <eb8158@aol.com>
Bellevue, WA USA - Tuesday, October 26, 1999 at 15:46:10 (PDT)
have had geniculate neuralgia on and off for over 15 years.
refuse to have surgery...nothing good seems to come of it. has
anyone had any luck with accupuncture???? i used to take tegretol
but now take neurontin and antidepressants...all just help to the
point were i can get up and move around... would enjoy hearing
from someone who tried accupuncture...thanks beth
beth johnstone <beth.johnstone@juno.com>
houston, tx USA - Tuesday, October 26, 1999 at 12:08:16 (PDT)
i was diagnosed with geniculate neuralgia about 15 years
ago i was fortunate because my husband is a dr. and knew what it
was from my description..he's a psychiatrist but always loved
neurology. i was taking tegretol...then for a couple of years the
pain stopped...it's back now...and i am taking neurontin plus an
antidepressant...plus pain pills...i refuse surgery as i have
never heard of good or lasting results...so what's the answer to
this hell?????? i would welcome anyone who wants to communicate
with me via e-mail...thanks, beth
beth johnstone <beth.johnstone@juno.com>
houston, tx USA - Tuesday, October 26, 1999 at 12:04:54 (PDT)
I was diagnozed with Hydrocephalus (normal Pressure) two
years ago when I was 64. I suffer from gait imbalance, pressure
on the right side of my head and short term memory. It continues
to worsen. My doctor advised that a shunt in my case would be
dangerous and would not help me! It is so difficult to accept
that there is not a curee. Any imput
Mary Cain <irishmary2@earthlink.net>
USA - Sunday, October 17, 1999 at 13:11:12 (PDT)
Just an update. Had my MVD on Oct.4th. The 8th,9th, and
10th cranial nerves were all done. I have no more GN pain! It's
been 13 years of madness solved in 7 hours of surgery! It is
great to be alive. If anyone wants to go to the best doctor in
the country for this miracle, let me know. I'll send you a link
to Dr. Sen at Mt. Sinai Center for Cranial Base Surgery. He is
the best without a doubt.
Sandra Bridgeman <slywise@aol.com>
Hillsdale, NJ USA - Saturday, October 16, 1999 at 07:03:26 (PDT)
My husband was diagnoised with Trigeminal Neuralgia two
months ago. He has been on Neurontin with little effect. As of on
week ago the dosage was increased and the pain seems to be
slowing down. Instead of happening all day long now it is only a
few times throughout the day. If meds does not work out the next
step will be Gamma Knife. If anyone has had this and would like
to email results we would appreciate the information. Thanks! And
thank you for this web page. Louise
Louise Hatfield <tbq002@aol.com>
Clovis, CA USA - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 17:13:43 (PDT)
Newly diagnosed epileptic--searching for info.
Darrin Frazier <darrinsfrazier@hotmail.com>
San Francisco, CA USA - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 12:15:58
(PDT)
Has any one taken part in the Pain Clinic,at the National
Institute of Dental Research, in Bethesda, MD. They are
conducting a research project on TN and I have volunteered to
help. I would like to know what I should expect.Let me know if
you have taken part or plan to in the future Thanks Wanda
Wanda Khouri <khouri@zim.com>
FtLauderdale, fl USA - Thursday, October 07, 1999 at 20:21:09
(PDT)
I saw a neuro surgeon yesterday who recommended balloon
compression. I am looking for individuals who have had this
procedure: what have results been? if pain free, for how long?
was there numbness - for how long - how severe? other side
effects? Any information would help me make my decision. I have
had TN for 6 years and am on fairly high doses of tegretol and
neurontin and still having major pain breakthrough.
Carolyn Maynes <smaynes@cyberus.ca>
Ottawa, ON CDA - Wednesday, October 06, 1999 at 19:51:11 (PDT)
Hi Friends, Since my last post, things have gotten somewhat
worse. My husband is in even more pain. He is taken approx. 1200
mg of Tegretol and two Vicodin a day. At times he also takes
Relefin. The pain still comes through. He has an over all ill
feeling, a "just not right" feeling going on along with
the pain. He feels fogged up. Recently he has been awakened at
night with a "distant roar" in his head. There is also
a pulsing type sound. He says it seems like he's hearing a noise
from outside his head, but then it also seems that its on the
inside. When he has these kinds of sensations and sounds he seems
to not feel as well overall. This is worrying me. I don't know if
this has anything to do with the TEGETOL or The TN itself. Has
anyone else experienced this?? Please email me if you have or
know anyone else who's had this. artseaone@aol.com
Kim <artseaone@aol.com>
ca USA - Tuesday, October 05, 1999 at 10:47:19 (PDT)
In May 1999, I had the usual MRI. The Neurologist Diagnosed
me havin TN. Besides the severe pain I also have severe swelling
of my left side of my face and was wondering if anyone else has
any other symptoms? It comes and goes but I recently had swelling
twice in a week. I would like more information on TN so if anyone
out there who knows anything please let me know. Thank you and Im
glad I found this site its great.
Rhonda <doylet@innernet.net>
Pa. USA - Tuesday, October 05, 1999 at 07:47:11 (PDT)
I have a severve spasm every 3-6 months. I was told this is
F.M. Got Tegatol, was wondering if I took dilantin if this would
prevent an episode.
Carol Snow <e638@scatcat.fhsu.edu>
Hays, KS USA - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 11:30:02 (PDT)
searching for a doctor by the name of Emil Hiefeger.
migrane surgery, new tecnology.
Hope Colgrove <A-Madhouse4@att.net>
Kenosha, Wisconsin USA - Monday, September 27, 1999 at 19:24:40
(PDT)
I have had this affliction for two years, I still do not
know how or where it has come from. When it flares up I take
neurontin for it. I have always had it on the left side of my
mouth now it had moved to the right is that possible?
Connie Patterson <cpatterson@admin.ffieldjr.davis.k12.ut.us>
USA - Monday, September 27, 1999 at 18:33:35 (PDT)
I have had severe pain since December2 1997 MY life has
changed .The pain started in the left side of the face I thought
was a dental. December 2, 1997 I went to the dentist the pain was
horrible I couldnt stand him to touch the left side of my face he
numbed it and adjusted my bite 2 hours later the numbness left
and the pain started but it was worse I went straight to the ER
before I could get to the ER I blacked out I stayed in the
hospital for 6 days test were done but they couldnt find what it
was I lived on Demoral for six days every four hours Months have
passed and years I have tried all kinds of medication no luck
finally I found a dentist who diganosed it as Glossopharegeal
neruagia with Cardiac sycompe but no neurosurgeon will agree
because of the risk recently a angiogram was done I had extreme
pain during the procedure they found a blockage in the left
venterbral artery surgery was planned but with in two weeks MRA
was done the blockage left I dont know why the blackouts have
stopped by I still have severe pain in my face which is now
almost numb and severe muscle spasms which requires the ER and
injection of Demoral Depression has been a problem I have lost my
job I can no longer do any activities and My livihood is taken
from me. Because I cant find a dedicated doctor to help me they
look at me as a Drug addict. I try to find answers daily I cant
give up My family is suffering I wish this would end. Please help
it you have any answers
shelby
ky USA - Friday, September 24, 1999 at 20:48:03 (PDT)
I wish I had found this web page months ago before I let
all those "professional" doctors (dentists,
endodontists, oral surgeons, facial pain specialists,etc.)
torture me with injections which sent sparks up through my face
and, at one time, left one side of my face paralyzed
(temporarily). I have been in constant pain (at times
excrutiating) since January 1999 when I decided to put a bridge
in my mouth. Both teeth started to hurt immediately. So the next
step was root canals. Of course, both got infected and had to be
redone. I spent countless nights trying to deal with horrible
pain. No pain medication worked -- probably because I had
neuralgia and was on the wrong medications. I have seen almost 15
dental professionals this year and not one has diagnosed me
correctly. They all had different opinions -- apicoectomy, TMJ,
clenching teeth, PSYspsychological problem. The neurologist I saw
last week finally diagnosed my problem as facial neuralgia and
gave me Neurontin which is helping quite a bit. The pain is still
there at times and I still cannot eat on either set of molars in
my mouth -- I had another root canal done on the other side of my
mouth which, I believe, was necessary. The pain is worse at
night. I'm hoping time will heal my damaged nerves. Thanks for a
great web page. I'll drop by again, hopefully, to give you a
brighter update. Time for my medication. Good night!
terry smith <smithfam@goes.com>
USA - Tuesday, September 21, 1999 at 20:11:15 (PDT)
I've been suffering with severe pain, undiagnosed correctly
for 13 years. I've just recently had a dye MRI to find a
"curly artery" which is very deep hitting the 11th
cranial nerve. This has been diagnosed as Glossopharyneal
Neuralgia. I'm on my way to see Dr. Sen at Mt. Sinai Center for
For Cranial Base Surgery in New York City. Has anyone seen this
Doctor? I'd love to here from anyone suffering with the pain of
this condition.
Sandra Bridgeman <slywise@aol.com>
Hillsdale, NJ USA - Wednesday, September 15, 1999 at 07:09:28
(PDT)
My father (age 65) was diagnosed with TN over one year ago.
He has considerable pain and he feels that he has exhausted every
avenue (ie. dental surgery, medication -makes him sleepy,
chiropractor, massage, acupuncture). Surgery was suggested to
enter the base of his brain and use a balloon-type apparatus but
he is nervous about such treatment. Please write with suggestions
that have worked for you. Thank you. E-mail rgott@direct.com
Ilka Johnson <rgott@idirect.com>
Toronto, Canada - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 12:37:48 (PDT)
I am 31 years old with a 3 year old son and I was diagnosed
about 6 weeks ago. I believe I have been suffering from TN for a
little over a year. The initial symtoms led me to believe that I
had a reoccurring ear infection. I would occasionally get the
sensation of fluid in my ear and a sharp stabbing pain.
Periodically I started to get a sensation in my lower teeth. I
thought maybe I had a bad tooth and so I did the
"normal" thing of taking a few tylenols or excedrins to
reduce the pain. For a while this seemed to work. I couldn't
really chew on the left side of my face and there were times when
inhaling through my mouth would make my knees buckle. The air on
my teeth was so cold, so deeply chilling, that it ached to the
very center of my being. I was lucky that none of the dentists (I
went to three) pulled any of my teeth. I was told that I was
probably suffering from TMJ. I went to an ENT specialist - his
diagnosis was that I needed to stretch the muscle in my jaw. To
accomplish this he gave me a handful of tounge-depressors and
told me to start with two or three and gradually add additional
sticks to passively stretch the muscle. I walked out of his
office and gave the sticks to my son to play with. With the pain
in my jaw I do not want to gradually add ANYTHING! My general
practioner diagnosed my TN and was honest in telling me that I
have a long road ahead of me. My life has changed greatly in the
last 6 weeks. I can not work. I care for my son with assistance
from my mother. I am almost never pain free. I have the sharp
stabbing pain in the ear, dull to stabbing pain in my lower and
upper teeth, aching to throbbing in my lower jaw and sharp,
stabbing, intense pain on the upper left side of my head above
the ear. I have a very high pain threshold and this pain I am
having a very difficult time dealing with. I pray to God that the
pain doesn't return and when it does, I pray that it stops. I
have "flare-ups" that last for 10 minutes up to three
hours. What do you do to get through the pain? I have the urge to
run, but I don't want to be too far from contacts if I need
assistance. I want my life back. How many of you go to work
everyday? How do you work through the "flare-ups"? I'm
just starting the process of finding out what works for me,
please let me know what has worked for you. I look forward to
hearing from some of you. It has been a mixed blessing to find
this site. It is hard to hear about the pain, but it is
comforting to know that I am not alone.
Katrina Williams <growgren@gte.net>
Riverside, CA USA - Tuesday, September 07, 1999 at 00:58:14 (PDT)
Hi there! I have had bouts of Trigeminal Neuralgia for more
than half my life. I am 45, and have been a nurse for as long.
the funny thing is I wasn't diagnosed by an MD, but by a very
knowledgable Chiropractor. I have since found ways to minimize
the occurances. I did not know about Tegretol until a patient of
mine suffering with the same tortures "Tic de la Rouge"
diagnosis shared his story of diagnosis and treatment with me. I
would like to here from anyone with help on handling dental care
on the effected side of my face. It's difficult to make myself
think about anything metal coming near the left side of my face
let alone a dentist's instruments. Thanx! Lorie
Cole/llcole@jps.net
Lorie Cole <llcole@jps.net>
Lakeport, Ca USA - Thursday, September 02, 1999 at 00:12:54 (PDT)
Well it seems that I am 1 of the lucky 300 out of the
2,000,000 people that live here in this city that has TN. I got
it first when I was 30. Now 8 years later after basically never
really thinking too much about it, it reared its ugly head again.
Very slowly at first. It was just a little twinge on my left
side. Scared me to death. It was like and old friend I hated
stopping back for a overdue chat. I tried to make like it wasn't
happening but the little zings and shocks turned into big zings
and it was time to see the Doc for some Tegretol. I basically
prescribed it TO MYSELF as I let him make a misdiagnosis just to
see if these guys had learned anything in 8 years. He guessed I
had Bells Palsey or shingles and to watch for some type of rash.
Right! I wasn't leaving without an Rx for the Teg. which he
reluctanly gave me after I elaborated on my 8 years prior
experience. It seemed that my Tn was progressing through
different stages. Although my Teg was helping I was still
breaking thru (WITH PAIN) at approx 900 -1100mg. He would up the
dose and for a few days and I would be calm with minimal shocks
but when they came somtimes they were bad. These electric shocks
or dagger cramps are from my left ear thru the mid nerve to my
front teeth and would be shocking, cramping and stabbing right
into my left lower cheek along my jaw line...Yow-- Pain would
feel like 3 or 4 root canals being done at once up top on my
upper teeth. A day or two later the zings and stabs were replaced
with a cramping muscle-like rock hard feeling that the triggers(
eating, talking, touching) would set off. Unfortunatly, eating
was the one act that always would trigger the zings. The
excruciating cramps- 10 seconds to 45 seconds in length would
days later change to a dagger like stabbing and if I pressed hard
mid way between my mouth and my ear , it would kind-off make the
pain ease up or- stop immediately. This would go on all day. This
zinging and cramping with triggers would ebb and flow, CHANGING
just about every day or two. I, oddly enough, would
apprehensively look forward to waking up, to see which symptom I
would be battling that day. -Annoying - (to say the least). At
any rate, last week it got so bad I almost had to leave work. I
could not even talk without triggering a cramplike explosion that
would almost knock me over in face-pain. Now, just moving my eyes
left to right or bending my head down was now triggering the
pain. My eyes were tearing, my face was in my hands on my desk
and my phone was just ringing away because I could not bear to
answer it and have to Talk to someone..... My co-workers thought
I had a problem...AND I DID...and still do. I went to the DOC
again and got the next Rx in line --Nuerontin. I got for it last
week but have not taken it (maybe I should) because just as quick
as the pain was getting worse, it seemed to relax a bit with
800mg Teg. doing the trick and it seems some days I am 90% pain
free. I know the cycle will repeat and the stabbing and crushing
cramps will return. Its just a matter of when and that's the
depressing part. I could not imagine this pain ALL DAY but for
some people it appears to be reality and I can Only hope THAT
pain will ease up or GO AWAY altogether. For me, I just wait. (My
Nuerontin in my hip pocket.) Kind of like Ammo, that I don't
really need now. Besides, I hear the side effects are worse than
Tegretol. But when/if do need it, I most certainly will have to
take it.. At any rate I don't seem to be as bad as some of you on
this Post Forum. Still, as we all know, any pain like this is
bad, and can be terrible. I believe its time for a TV show like
20/20 or some news magazine to do a show on our struggles.
Perhaps it might make more people understand what we are going
through AND push Doctors to really look into finding some real
pain killers, lasting procedures and a certain cure. Thanks for
this Web Page & Good Luck to All. E-mails & comments to
me are welcome. Barry.
Barry <TNinTN@yahoo.com>
Memphis, TN USA - Saturday, August 28, 1999 at 02:52:18 (PDT)
My husband is now in the hospital recovering from
complications due to MVD. We whole heartedly believe that the
initial pain in the left side of his forehead is gone for good.
The complications are very rare that he is suffering and he had
to undergo another surgery to repair damage as well as stay in
the hospital another week with a lumbar drain in his back. While
the drain was in place, he was in severe pain from the pressure
of the cerebral fluid and eventually overdosed and had a
"psychotic episode" from using too much demerol. He has
had pain almost everyday for 2 years and we have lost our home
business and more money than we can ever pay back. God has left
me my husband, and I am more thankful than I can express. I often
feel alone in this as I know my husband does, because we are each
dealing with a different aspect of this terrible disorder. While
my husband feels inadiquate at not being a functional as he used
to be, I feel overwhelmed at the amount of things I have to deal
with as a mother and a father to 3 very small children. My
husband has been on the maximum amount of Neurontin and he also
tried percocet, vicoden, morphine, amitriptilene, nortriptilene,
prozac, effexor, and the best relief he had was from something
called OXYCONTIN this drug is a 12 hr. percocet. I am very sorry
to hear of those who cannot find MD's to listen and treatments
that work. We know we are fortunate even in the hell we have
faced. I have always said that if anything weird can happen to
somebody, it will happen to my hubby. and he's still with us.
Someday we will all be pain free. It is God's will.
Liz <jebadiahj@yahoo.com>
OR USA - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 23:02:19 (PDT)
This week after a microsurgery in my nose my doctor
diagnosis a trigeminal neuralgia (left side). Next wedneday I am
going to a neurologist. But in spite the neuralgia I am realy
worried with this new disease. I want to know everything about
this. Before the surgery I had this "strong headache"
in my face and head, but my doctor at that time atributed it to
my alergy and sinusite. And now I was submited to the surgery,
that they said was a success and will remain suffering with this
ache? Is this forever. Sorry, but if possible help me.
Lourdes de Matos <loumatos@domain.com.br>
Rio de Janeiro, RJ Brasil - Sunday, August 15, 1999 at 11:04:03
(PDT)
Dear Anonymous in Australia. You state this burning pain
was in the mandible area? Was your tongue/mouth involved also?
Did this "causalgia" start with dental work or an
injury to your face? Thank You.
Betty
TX USA - Saturday, August 14, 1999 at 16:19:55 (PDT)
Apologies for posting my comments twice!
Anonymous
Australia - Friday, August 13, 1999 at 19:49:04 (PDT)
Three years ago I experienced a neurogenic disorder which
manifested itself as a continuous burning pain. Concerned at the
apparent lack of pain decrease over time, I was referred to a
specialist oro-facial surgeon, who diagnosed my condition as
causalgia. Invasive treatments were ruled out, as the intensity
of the pain was not excruciating as in Trigeminal Neuralgia, in
addition to the prospect of undesirable post-surgical
complications, among them partial or complete anaesthesia of the
affected area (left mandible). Therefore, a course of medication
was begun. The medications I use are Doxepin and Clonazepam. I
cannot praise my treating specialist highly enough. The onset of
analgesia was progressive. I have been on Doxepin and Clonazepam
for 3 years. Apart from minor side effects, I am virtually
asymptomatic most of the time, and even when there is a temporary
reccurence of pain, it is usually of a very short duration, and
of low intensity. I would appreciate the signing of this
guestbook by others who have used the same medications for the
same condition (causalgia), or similar conditions. Please
remember, there is a multitude of highly skilled medical
professionals. I find it inconceivable that the majority of
persons experiencing facial pain, typical or atypical, cannot be
helped by a oro-facial pain specialist. Good luck to all seeking
relief, and congratulations to those who have found it. Anon.
Anonymous
Australia - Friday, August 13, 1999 at 19:44:54 (PDT)
I have had TN for almost two years now. My systoms are some
what different and the doctor says I some what of a mystery.
First they suggested that I take Tegratol (spelling ?) but I did
not want to take this drug do to some of the side affects like
sudden death and platelet anemia. I am about to try Neurontin I
hope it works because I feel like ripping off the left side of my
face by early afternoon. If it does not work, and after what I
have read on the Internet, I will push for the nerve
decompression surgeory it seems to be the best option.
Diane Reed
Tucson, AZ USA - Thursday, August 12, 1999 at 18:36:49 (PDT)
Hi, Found out I had TN about 6 months ago. I am taking meds
but they are not always helpful. I gain little information from
doctor other than saying we'll increase or try a different med.
I'm looking for other ways to fight the pain. Any suggestions?
Connie <reidel@iconnect.net>
Grayslake, IL. USA - Sunday, August 08, 1999 at 15:34:21 (PDT)
Thank you for having this page. I have had TN for 7 years
and was begining to think I was the only person who had this. No
one around here other than my doctor has even heard of it. It is
comforting to know that others know what I'm talking about. I get
so depressed, not because I have this (I've never felt sorry for
myself) it's just the isolation. I am curently on Tegretol,
Baclofen, Amitriptyline, and Darvocet. TN runs my life. Most of
what I do depends on what it's doing at the time. Whether I go
outdoors-can't do that if it's windy or cold, what I eat, whether
I read stories to little children or not because sometimes it
hurts too much to even talk. No one seems to understand what it's
like. My family tries to but they can't understand that simple
things, like a hair falling across my cheek can be very painful.
I would truly love to talk to someone.
Mary Sitton <comatose_sitton@yahoo.com>
Townsend, Mt USA - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 19:09:54 (PDT)
I was diagnosed this year with TN. I am taking 1800 mg of
Neurontin and finally free of the worst pain I have ever felt in
my life. It's so comforting to know that I am not alone Thanks!
Nora K. Chandler
Nora K. Chandler <nkchandl@gte.net>
Grapevine, TX USA - Saturday, July 24, 1999 at 19:26:17 (PDT)
I was diagnosed with TN in October, 1998. Last week, I had
a needle procedure done by what I thought was one of the best
doctors in town and I have had more intense pain than ever. The
TN was located on the right side of my nose. Now, after surgery,
I have no feeling whatsoever from the top of my head down through
my forehead and I cannot feel my eye at all, down the right side
of my nose and mouth (including the entire right side of the
inside of my mouth. I now have to worry about my right eye as I
can damage it unknowingly. Eating is painful and I now have
intense pain in and around my right ear.....more intense than any
pain I've ever felt. I have no idea what to do about any of this.
Eating is difficult and if I awaken during the night, the pain
prevents me from going back to sleep. I am in constant pain, only
the degree of pain changes throughout the day. Even though I
cannot feel my eye, I feel pain deep in the eye socket (as though
I've been up all night). Thanks for this web page, I couldn't
begin to explain all of this to anyone that doesn't know about
TN.
Carol Rak <nycerak@aol.com>
Chicago, il USA - Wednesday, July 21, 1999 at 09:18:31 (PDT)
I really need to get some Percocet pills because I have a
horrible brain tumor and the doctors will not give me enough.
Moana Kukowski <kukowski@mediaone.net>
ma USA - Tuesday, July 13, 1999 at 19:16:33 (PDT)
My mother is suffering unbearable pain (right side of
face). She is unable to take medication due to side effects. She
is a member of KAISER health plan, and has seen a neurosurgeon
who will perform the Glycerol Injection procedure for her. We are
also awaiting an appointment to see a radiologist, to see if she
can have the GAMMA Knife Radiosurgery. Has anyone been treated
through KAISER with either of these procedures---or with another
procedure? Do you have a recommendation for us? Please contact me
ASAP? Thank you, Janet
Janet <granmatash @
AOL.com>
Los Angeles, USA - Tuesday, July 13, 1999 at 14:34:15 (PDT)
Deb, Where are you????????
Susan Ray <sray1156@yahoo.com>
Cool, CA USA - Wednesday, July 07, 1999 at 11:54:03 (PDT)
Deb C - Hey, girl, you own this website, yet we can't find
you! Do we have your email wrong? Please advise! Thanx -- your
pal Jane
Jane Uitti <juitti@sprintmail.com>
Boulder, CO USA - Tuesday, July 06, 1999 at 21:34:22 (PDT)
Hi I am 31 female married with young children my
neuroligist has put me on neurontin. He thinks I have tn the meds
have helped with the numbness and pressure but not severe ear
pain and a sore gland please help do you think i am being miss
diagnoised or is this part of tn. I feel like my doctor is very
smart but he doesn't really listen to me i feel like i have no
one to me. I need to talk to someone please e-mail me . thanks
Tia
tia <tiascollectiblegifts@yahoo.com>
mn USA - Sunday, July 04, 1999 at 19:42:51 (PDT)
I am 37 year old female that was diagnosed with this
disorder on January 13, 1999. I know to some of you this may not
seem like a very long time to be complaining about having this
very painful disorder, but you see I have been saddled with
chronic migraines for 21 years. I told myself if God had to give
me more to deal with, well at least it was with pain in the same
area I had had to deal with all my life. This disorder took over
the same side of my head as the migraines, but seem to have
pushed my migraines to the other side, I guess in a way they felt
sorry for me. I am taking 2400mg of neurontin right now and
continue to increase 300mg every 3 days. We are working up to
3600mg daily or a bad side effect. I am feeling some relief. I
have the pain that last all day with 15 or 20 sharp pains a day.
It is maddening, especially when you have 2 teenagers who don't
understand or seem to care. For me life goes on, or so it seems
to others. I try not to show pain because they don't understand.
Everyone except my husband or doctor who has treated me for
migraines for 10 years now. He told me eventually I would have to
go to a surgeon and I said, I don't regret that day, because
headaches have been a burden to me all my life. See I pray that
when I do have to have surgery, that a true miracle will happen
that all my headaches will be GONE. God watch over all of us who
suffer from this disorder and help us to find help.
Rena G. Kidwell
Lexington, KY USA - Thursday, July 01, 1999 at 10:39:53 (PDT)
My husband,Gary has been a chronic back pain sufferer for
over 25 yrs. Three years ago this past May he tried to end his
pain by shooting himself in the head with a 22 rifle. What he
accomplished was to lose his right eye and develop Atypical
Trigeminal Neuralgia. He has said that he just thought he had
pain until he experienced TN. He had most all of the procedures
done, the morphine infusion pump implant, all the different meds
and anything else we could find that might relieve him of the
terrible headaches and burning in his face. He fought the pain
battle daily but on June 5,1999 he could go on no longer. Gary
once again attempted suicide and was successful. I knew in my
heart that he would try again but I didn't want it to be so soon.
Gary was 48 yrs old. We have a daughter Misty 27, a son Gary Lynn
23 and two grandsons Trey 8 and Blake 22 months. Gary was a
Christian and I know that he is with Jesus and will never
experience pain again. Pain can cloud your thinking if it is out
of control. For those of you suffering with TN or any chronic
pain don't lose hope. It is my hope and prayer that I can be an
advocate for chronic pain sufferers. You are truly my heroes. You
fight a battle that is raging within you and takes every bit of
strength you can muster just to survive. Please keep fighting.
Don't lose hope! I don't want to see not one other family go
through the loss of a precious loved one due to TN. I will tell
Gary's story by whatever means that is made available to me. I
will do my part to help the medical profession have more freedom
to give adequate amounts of medications to relieve the suffering
of chronic pain patients. I will talk with you any time of the
day or night if you need to. Finally, if you are the loved one of
a TN patient give them a big hug and remind them how loved they
are and what they mean to you. This posting is not meant to be
depressing but enlightening. I truly hope I have not offended
anyone.
Kathy Whitener <kwhitener@hotmail.com>
Palestine, Tx USA - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 09:59:12 (PDT)
I need mass info. I'm 19 years old, was diagnosed with
migraines for months on end, hospitalized for weeks, given
countless CAT scans and MRIs and too many spinal taps, yet no
answers. All my personal research and symptoms point to
trigeminal neuralgia. My team of doctors can't diagnose me, and
keep giving me nerve blocks for my oxcipital nerve. No one will
listen. They say I'm too young or that the pain I'm in is
psychological, that nothing really hurts THAT badly. Please,
someone let me in on some info that can convince someone to help
me.
Megan Robbins <darkdragon@bigfoot.com>
cleveland, oh USA - Saturday, June 19, 1999 at 21:42:48 (PDT)
I suffered from TN on and of for 2 years. I have been OK
now for about a year and a half. I am now 21. I was originally
put on tegratol. This worked fine for a couple of months but then
the pain came back again. My doctor kept me on these for about a
year only uped the dosage. Eventually after I had seen a the
specialist 3 times he changed me to Amitriptyline. From the first
day I took these I have had no problems. I just pray that it
dosn't come back.
Marc Sheeran <shezzy@ic24.net>
USA - Friday, June 18, 1999 at 15:22:26 (PDT)
Info on dental procedures. Already had one pulled now they
want to do a root canal. Though I do have an abcess I still don't
want to have a procedure unless absolutely necessary, it scares
me to death. I am a 33 year old mother of 3. Diagnosed with
trigeminal neuralgia 2 years ago. Went through one pregnancy
without carbamenzapine. They gave me vicadin(yuck). Didn't think
I was going to make it.
Karen <faith@mwt.net>
Muscoda, Wi USA - Wednesday, June 09, 1999 at 20:08:04 (PDT)
I am a 33 year old mother of 3. I was diagnosed with
trigeminal neuragia 2 years ago. I have had teeth pulled because
of my pain, I am being sent back and forth from doctor to
dentist. Now they want to do a root canal and I'm not sure if I
need it, now I do have an abcess that doesn't want to go away,
but I don't know for sure what's causing it and I'm scared of the
pain of having the procedure done. Nobody seems to
understand(professionals). Anybody with ideas please let me know.
Karen <faith@mwt.net>
Muscoda, Wi USA - Wednesday, June 09, 1999 at 20:02:47 (PDT)
started having a tingling sensation in my face from my ears
to my jaw on both sides.is this the beginning of this tn? i did
have pain in the left side of my face andpain in my lower jaw
which went away in a couple of weeks. i was washing my face and
it feels like if i touch my ears i can feel it in my jaw. someone
please help me. i also feel it in my lower lip. i have been
getting night sweats too. someone please respond . i live in in.
do you know any drs. in the chicago area?HELP!!!
donna dunn <donnadunn@juno.com>
in USA - Wednesday, June 02, 1999 at 22:44:27 (PDT)
Until recently, I had 4 months without pain or medication.
The first time in over 4 years. I believe that staying healthy -
taking supplements and taking care of myself - made a big
difference. And the pain is generally tolerable at the present
time. However, before I thought the TN had returned, I was having
feelings of fluid behind my eardrum and a couple of times had
immense pain around the bottom of my ear. I understand there is a
lymph node there. It is clearly not in my ear and I have no ear
infection. I wonder if anyone else has had this. Frankly, it is
much more painful than my face. And I have tended to find that
the pain in my face goes more into my ear this time (I have only
had problems to date with the lower two branches of the nerve).
Carolyn Maynes <smaynes@cyberus.ca>
Canada - Wednesday, June 02, 1999 at 19:31:33 (PDT)
I wrote once before after MVD surgery for TN. The initial
results were very good. It has been over a year now, and I have
some blurred vision in my left eye, and a constant nagging
"squeezing" sensation over my left eye. I don't know if
another blood vessel is being compressed or if this is just a
result of the surgery. The horrible pain has not come back. This
squeezing sensation is usually accompanied by a headache. Just
wondering if anyone else experienced this after surgery.
Linda Toth <lindatoth1@yahoo.com>
Kinston, NC USA - Tuesday, June 01, 1999 at 11:52:55 (PDT)
to lois pagliaroli I tried to e-mail info on anesthesia
dolorosa but mail was returned due to incomplete e-mail address
contact me if you still need this info .....Joe
joe runyan <mars90@worldnet.att.net>
USA - Sunday, May 23, 1999 at 21:42:41 (PDT)
I have atypical facial/paresthesia neuralgia WITH
anesthesia dolorosa, pain behind the eye. I am deperately looking
for info on AD. Can anyone direce me?
lois pagliaroli <ljpkoala>
USA - Saturday, May 22, 1999 at 19:49:14 (PDT)
I left out my e-mail address on my last comments, so here
it is.
Linda Lobeck <lml38@up.net>
Kingsford, MI USA - Sunday, May 16, 1999 at 16:59:05 (PDT)
I have been diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia for nearly
three years and I am 38 years old. I have been on varying doses
of Neurontin and other medications with some success. The facial
pain is limited to my right side and I have also experienced
numbness. In addition, I have had neck spasms and one-sided
headaches, which have been helped with a good physical therapist
and learning about trigger points for the headaches. Does anyone
else have neck spasms?
Linda Lobeck
USA - Sunday, May 09, 1999 at 21:20:37 (PDT)
What can I say that the many of you haven't already said. I
have suffered the torment for 5 years. Recently, it is more
intense and has lasted for weeks (months) at a time. I am an
elementarly principal. To "smile" every day, when most
of the time I want to cry ... well, I know you understand. May we
all find comfort, some day / some way.
Tim Flint <tflint@power-net.net>
Shepherd, MI USA - Thursday, May 06, 1999 at 19:39:32 (PDT)
I was diagnosed 4 years ago with TN. My regular doctors
didn't know what it was. I was given Vicoden, Tylenol 4, etc. I
was virtually overdosing myself on Ibuprophen and Tylenol every
day. I was a walking zombie. I still had the pain. Finally, I
went to the dentist. After a full mouth x-ray revealed no mouth
problems he referred me to a neurologist and to have an MRI. I
went to the neurologist, I explained my symptoms, he handed me a
bottle of Tegretol and by the next day the pain was gone. I give
a lot of thanks to my husband and son for sticking with me during
that time. I don't know how they stood me! I have been
researching the Microsurgical Microvascular Decompression. Has
anyone had it? If so, let me know how you did. Thanks, Raimonda
Raimonda Whalen <rwhalen@nexus-ioa.org>
Beecher, IL USA - Wednesday, May 05, 1999 at 13:51:32 (PDT)
I am 32 years old and was diagnosed with TN in July of 98.
I was placed on Neurontin, Tegretol, Baclofen, Amitriptripilyne,
and Prozac AT THE SAME TIME!!! The meds. would work for a little
while and then the pain would get worseagain so they would either
add or increase the meds. I was bascially a walking zombie!
People would ask how I'm functioning and I would tell them I had
no choice. I am a special education teacher for grades K-3 , I
have 2 boys (5 and 9), and my husband drives a truck so he is
gone during the week! The doctor would ask me to hold my hands
out and walk a staright line. Of course I couldn't! I couldn't
even talk without slurring my words. I was also driving 30
minutes each way to bring myself and my 2 children to school.
When the pain got more severe, there was no way I could increase
my meds. My body had already gotten toxic from too much of
something--of course nobody was checking my blood count! Anyway,
I had radiofrequency coagulation November 5 which was a MAJOR
fiasco!! I was awake during the majority of the surgery (very
alert!), was in bed for 2 weeks afterwards on hydrocodone, and
had double vision for MONTHS!!! I had to take a medical leave
from school as I was totally unfunctionable. Anyway, my vision
finally started returnig (YEA!). But two days ago I had a
recurrence of my TN!!!!! It is worse this time as I am not able
to touch my back tooth, even to close my mouth. I put myself back
on the Neurontin and Tegretal! And I just took a amitriptyline
because the pain will not go away. I have continuous pain, then
skyrocket pain. I always have to one up everyone (LOL) I am in
extreme pain. I am not willing to go through the same surgery
again! That was HORRIBLE! I don't know if it was just my
neurosurgeon or what, but I won't have either! Somebody PLEASE
help me. I am so upset. I was finally getting my life back
together! People were commenting on how glad they were to see
"Donna" back again!!!!! I can't do this again!!!!!!! I
just can't! I don't know what to do. I can't function being so
drugged up, but I can't relive that horrible experience of
surgery again either! Sorry to carry on so, I just don't know
what to do and people have a hard time understanding. I know they
mean well, but they just can't understand. Delia28466@aol.com
Donna
Donna Means <Delia28466@aol.com>
Madison, TN USA - Friday, April 30, 1999 at 06:29:45 (PDT)
I have been dealing with TN for over two years. The pain
has been progressing so rapidly and severly that I am now taking
2400mg of Tegretol and still have breakthrough pain. I have
contacted MGH and they have referred me to the Mayo Clinic. My
question, If you had one Neurosurgion to trust, who and where
would he/she be? Travel is not an issue. With this much pain, I
travel to the end of the earth for the right person.
Tim Phanco <tphanco@rehrigpacific.com>
USA - Sunday, April 25, 1999 at 19:05:22 (PDT)
I have had diagnosed MS for 19 years before the TN began a
year ago after extensive dental work. It was a sharp, shooting
pain in my lower right molar. I figured it was more dental
problems. I went to a root canal specialist who said my teeth
were ok. Then I discovered a trigger point and my regular dentist
suggested TN. First time I had ever heard of it. It lasted 3
weeks and then went away. Out of sight, out of mind. Now, a year
later it has returned and is much worse. I can't talk or eat much
of the time. I live on Ensure taken thru a straw. The Internist
put me on Tegretol. That was 6 days ago. It has helped a little.
I'm pretty upset over the prospects. The pain has shut me down
more than 20 years of MS.
Lars Howard <lars@indy.net>
Carmel, IN USA - Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 19:23:09 (PDT)
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS WEB PAGE. I LEFT THREE LETTERS
UNDER THE WEB PAGE OR GUESTBOOK AT MGH HARVARD. I WOULD
APPRECIATE IF ANYONE WOULD READ THEM. I AM JUST TOO TIRED TO
RETYPE THEM. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INSIGHT OR OPINIONS FROM ANY
OF YOU. THANKS AGAIN A MILLION FOR TAKING THE TIME AND READING
THEM, AND DEB,THANKS FOR THIS SITE AND I KNOW GOD WILL TRULY
BLESS YOU FOR BEING SO CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS AND HELPING US WITH
OUR SITUATION. THANK YOU, AGAIN.
NANCY <SGFLY@AOL.COM>
SIOUX FALLS, SD USA - Saturday, April 24, 1999 at 15:22:56 (PDT)
Just found this website and I am so thankful. I am a 54
year old woman who has suffered with TN for over ten years. I
feel that this illness has completely altered my life. I never
know from one day to the next how I am going to feel. I have
never been able to pin down what exactly brings on my attacks. I
am presently trying accupuncture. I take neurontin, and have
given up on tegretol as I couldn't stand the side affects. I look
forward to hearing from others. I will do my best to help
Nancy Rowan <bnrowan@seaside.net>
Duncan, B.C., Canada - Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 22:44:58 (PDT)
Diagnosed on 14th of April. Had never heard of T N. Hope
the medication works. Never experienced such pain. Had no idea so
many people suffer from T.N. Reading the letters has helped me
greatly. Although I would NEVER wish this pain on anyone, I'm
glad to know that I'm not alone. NORMA
Norma J. Hodges <mawmaw
@net door.com>
Hattiesburg, Ms USA - Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 16:08:37 (PDT)
This is a great site. I have been looking for just such a
site ever since I was diagnosed with TN. I have since had MVD
surgery and am virtually pain free. Love to talk to any one who
has the problem.
Linda Toth <lt37856@aol.com>
Richmond, Va USA - Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 13:43:49 (PDT)
...After a year of tests, doctors, drugs and radiology (and
a lot of patronizing attitudes) I was diagnosed with TN
yesterday. The past year has created it's own set of problems
(that I will have to resolve)..I am VERY happy to finally be
taken seriously..I think my neurologist is a saint (although he
said my case is so textbook that my PCP should have diagnosed in
the beginning)...I just can't help being resentful towards all
the mismanagement and disrespect I've been a victim of.
Anyway-Thanks for the page!..I am starting Tegretol
cautiously..and look forward to pain-free living with my perfect
2-yr. old son....
Ellen Braun <rumwell@msn.com>
Bellevue, WA USA - Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 07:58:37 (PDT)
Last August 1998, my father-in-law had the gamma knife
surgery done in Seattle, Washington. They attach this brace to
his head and "zapped" the nerves that cause the pain.
The worse part was the MRI. He chose this procedure because it
did not require an incision. The following 2 months the pain
continued, but even worse. Pain moved from the eye, to the cheek,
and to the tongue. After the fourth month, NO PAIN. He is happy
that the pain is gone but now has lost the sense of taste on one
side of his mouth. Has anyone had a similar experience?
David Giffel <giff@earthlink.net>
Indianapolis, IN USA - Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 18:10:27 (PDT)
I was just diagnosed with TN three days ago and my doctor
told me that there was a cure. Now I find these letters and
realize that there is no cure just hopeful relief. I am scared
stiff. I have never suffered such pain, not even during child
birth. I can't eat and have lost 9 pounds in the last week. I am
to start Tegretol in a few days. I was told that I have to have
blood work done every week while taking this drug as it lowers
your blood count.I am so scared and so tired of hurting. I can't
even enjoy my children or grandson anymore for the pain. My
husband has been so understanding but I am afraid that he will
only tolerate so much as he doesn't have any idea how much I
hurt. I am interested in hearing from anyone that has TN and that
can help encourage me. Melinda Leady
Melinda Leady <Outstres@hotmail.com>
So. Roxana, IL USA -
Can anyone describe the onset/progression of TN? I have had
intermittent (once every few months, usually occurs several times
within a 2-3 day period), intense shooting pains that seems to
originate in the back of my head near the left ear, shooting up
literally through my head and behind the eyeball. It is so
sporadic, and the pain is so brief (but unbearable) that I
haven't talked to anyone about it. I'm 30 years old and I can
remeber having this pain since I was about 25.
Pam <pamg@mckinney-silver.com>
Raleigh, NC USA -
Priscilla is my favorite aunt and has been horribly
afflicted with Trigeminal Neuralgia for about 10 years....she is
scheduled to undergo microvascular decompression tomorrow...and
we are all praying for a miracle!
Priscilla Carlson
Hudson, NH USA -
I need to know more about this disease. Please send me any
ibfo you can. I a await your response.
Dayna Davis <crazy@mscomm.com>
USA -
All I know at this time is tht after 3 years I finally
found a dr that knew what I have and am going through. I am to
see a neorogilist later this month . Would love to hear from
others that have this awfull awfull pain, I am 53 yrs old male
and this last bout made me cry just from sneezing, taking drinks
of water licking my lips you name it and it hurt and I mean hurt
hard. there have been times if someone would have offered to hit
me in my jaw I would have let them. whoever writes I will get
back and in the mean time I will pray for the rest of us that
have this. Thanks Phil
phil thralls <dlbthumb@si-net.com>
connersville, in USA -
I just spent the evening reading everyone's comments and I
feel for each and everyone of you. I'm 43 years old and was
diagosed at 38 with TN. I have a inter-cranial cyst that is
affecting my trigeminal nerve. I was on 1200 mg of Tegretol but
now I'm trying to take 1000. (800 just wasn't enough) I haven't
had any surgeries yet, but I'm interested in hear- ing about all
the choices. This Thursday I'm going to the Oregon Health
Sciences University to a new doctor. I don't think I can take
this much Tegretol forever. I have times when I can't talk, eat,
move, etc for about a week, then I just have jolts once in
awhile-maybe while I'm eating it'll surprise me and make me jerk
or to brush my teeth. I've been reading about the gamma-knife
surgery and it sounds interesting. If you have any comments to
me, please send them. Good luck to everyone.
PAM FORBES <pgdrf@uswest.net>
PORTLAND, OR USA -
hi: my name is monika, and my mother has been suffering
from trigeminal neuralgia since 1992. i'm glad i've found a place
where everyone knows what I'm talking about and i don't have to
explain!! i just wonder why i takes some doctors so so horribly
long to diagnose this disease. when my mum started to complain
about these horrible jolts of pain, TN was the first thing that
came to my mind, and i'm a lay person as far as medicine is
concerned. but her doctors just wouldnt believe it and she went
on a long and nightmarish odyssey before anybody took her
seriously and she found help. i dont understand why it had to
take so long. unfortunately, she cant tolerate carbamazepin
(sp?), but she's painfree right now. thank god. she still feels
isolated and misunderstood often. i'm glad i found this page to
tell her about. thanks for "listening". monika
Monika Geilern <geilern@uni-muenster.de>
Muenster, Germany -
Good evening folks,my name is larry and i'm 41 years old
and this is my 20 year anniversary from my first experience of
this disease.I can still remember where i was and what time it
was like it happened yesterday.Back then to be honest the doc's
didn't have a clue what was causing all this intense pain so
needless to say there is nary a drug i havn't tried.Please don't
misunderstand me,today i hold no grudges toward the medical
people.They simple didn't know so i was shuffled from doc to doc
till finally i met mine savior as i like to call him.He had in
1987 just moved to Victoria and was an ear,eye and throat
specialist.He was trained in Los Angelos and it was only by sheer
luck that his room mate when he was in college had all the same
symtoms as me which in turn made him curious as to what this
disease was all about.He used a surgical technique using nitrous
oxide to freeze my right side nerve.At the time of my first
surgery it wasn't covered by medical because if you all can
imagine the gov't considered it to be ELECTIVE.I was willing at
that point to try anything so what ever it cost i was willing to
pay.I should also mention that at that time he had people flying
in from all over the world to have the technique done to them at
$10,000 a go.This man knew i didn't have that kind of money so he
charged me $100 dollars to cover the paper work and thats it.What
an angel.It was through his first hand knowledge of living with
another man for 4 years in med. school that gave him the great
compassion he displayed to me.Anyway,i ended up having this
surgery on 4 different occations and i have been pain free for 2
years now.I won't use up anymore of this valuable web site space
but i would if i may leave you with some final thoughts.Of course
alot of things happened in my life over the past 20 years but one
of the most rewarding aspects is the amount of lay councelling
i've done on behalf of the doc's.Lots of families don't know how
to cope with us folks till they learn that others are out there
just like them.If anyone would like to e-mail me or get ahold of
me through ICQ (15414028)and just have a down to earth chat
please don't hesitate.I believe the sharing of our experience
,srength and hope is one of the few positive ways we can help
each other.Take care and thanks for the site!!
Larry Cole <lcole@islandnet.com>
Victoria, BC Canada -
My name is Joan, and I am 32 years old. I have been dealing
with TN for a number of years. The first medication I was put on
was, Baclofen. It made me feel really "out of it" and I
couldn't function. After another try or two, we tried,
Amitriptylin. It has greatly reduced the severity of the pain. I
had been having about 200 jolts, and I mean jolts, of pain every
day, Now it happens only a few times per day, and they are less
severe. At least I think they are, either that, or I've become so
used to the pain, I just deal with it better. It's a terrible
thing to have to think about every day. I also have Multiple
Sclerosis. Nobody can truly know the pain caused by TN, unless
they've experienced it. My husband and I have 5 children, and I
plan to keep up with my family for as long as I can. There are
days when I feel like I can't go on,(I feel like giving up)but
that doesn't last long. I feel like I have a really good
neurologist, that really listens to how I feel, and gives me some
options about my treatment. LIfe is extremely busy for us, and I
guess I feel that if I weren't busy, the disease would win, and
take over, and I can't let that happen, not yet. To look at me,
you probably wouldn't think there was anything wrong with me, but
when I take my handful of pills every day I know. Would email
with anyone who feels like talking! Joan
Joan Powers <wrpowers@wctc.net>
Wisconsin Rapids, WI USA -
I think I have TN and TMJ- no doctors in this area to
confirm, but I have horrible pain. No meds, no treatment. I'm
totally homebound now with the pain and have about reached the
end of my rope. I've tried so many things that the skin on my
face stings if I even touch it. I also have Lyme Disease which
seems to be the cause of all this. I'd love to talk to someone
else who has these problems. Reading the comments made me feel
less alone. I live in a very isolated area and am alone alot.
Thanks.
Jayne <mufcake@coffey.com>
USA -
I recently underwent a MVD for GPN and the surgery was
unsuccessful. What a great disappointment!! The neurosurgeon has
suggested another surgery to cut the nerve. Would like to hear
from someone who has had this happen to them. Does anyone know of
any other options??? Tina
Tina <agray@techplus.com>
Brandon,Manitoba, Canada -
Hi: My name is Scott I am 43 years old. I was searching the
WEB for information on TN and ran across this WEB site. I read
some of the stories. I was luckier than most my dentist knew what
I had. I was referred to a nuerologist and he put me on tegretol.
The TN went into remission for a while and now it is back. I
would like to talk with some one about this. Please E- Mail me at
Scoirv@aol.com
Scott <scoirv@aol.com>
Bellingham, WA USA -
Hi Aunt Debbie and Uncle Mike I am using the school
computer. I like your web site.
Travis Dalton
USA -
I am 60 years old. I was the "perfect" patient. I
had my teeth cleaned every 6 months, brushed my teeth faithfully.
I've been under my primary physician's care for 20 years. I
always try to do everything that I'm advised to do by the
professionals. That is what I was always told was the right thing
to do. Why go to a doctor if you aren't going to follow their
instructions. Well, I think that is a give and take situation. I
believe that they should keep up with what is going on in the
medical world!!!! I was referred to on oral surgeon by my dentist
of many years. I was the first patient he had ever referred for
oral surgery too have all their teeth removed. I had a mouth full
of beautiful teeth, white, & straight. I had been a model
when I was young so I was always particular about my appearance.
Anyhow, I had all of my teeth removed, dentures made and in
place. My mouth was healing nicely!!! But the pain was getting
worse. A week after the surgery, my surgeon removed a blood clot
from the upper right side, leaving an opening to my sinus. I was
told to be careful not to get anything into the opening!! How can
you eat or drink without getting stuff into your mouth? Well I
was told I had an infection and was given antibiotics. This
continued for months. I finally had my physician refer me to an
ENT who ordered a ct scan. The scan revealed "a cyst and
foreign debree" in my right maxullary sinus. The ENT then
referred me for a 2nd opinion, to see an opthomologyst and a
neurologist. That was the begining of a 2 year nightmare!! I am
on SSI so I am a slave to the system. 5 ENTS, 2 neurologists, 1
oral, maxiofacial surg. later I was diagnosed with TN. My primary
had thought it was TN months earlier but wanted another
diagnosis. The ENTs and doctors I had gone to simply didn't want
to get involved with me because I was the result of malpractice.
The oral surgeon had not done the right things for me. Because
I'm on med-ical he only did the bare neceties. If I had been an
insured patient he would have closed the opening to my sinus at
the time of surgery and this would not have happened, or at least
not this way. Legally I could do nothing because no doctor wants
to "rat" on another doctor. I had to drop my suit
because of that reason. But, now 2 and a half years later, I am
finding out information that I should have had in Oct 1996. In
his deposition, the dentist I had trusted, said my teeth were
healthy, he was just tired of my constant commplaint of pain!!!
He had givenn me a medical order to remove my teeth because he
was annoyed at my complaint of pain.!!! If you are in pain you
are supposed to inform your professionals, right? Wrong!! or at
least it what I'm being informed, now. The dentist didn't know
about TN. He only learned about it after my surgery when I
questioned him about what was happening to me. If he had known, I
would still have my teeth in my mouth instead of sitting in a jar
because it is too painful to wear them!!! Patients are at the
mercy of the professional. They should be informed!!! They should
know about problems that may be out there that the patient
doesn't know about. That is why he went to school isn't it. I am
new to the computer. 2 months ago I had never been on a computer.
Now, I've accessed TN cites and been educated. I most probablly
had TN for years, and the condition has been masked by other
problems. My primary physician has been trying to treat me with
his hands tied and blindfolded, because the "system"
won't let him take care of me the way he used to. Now he can't
put me in the hospital or get tests unless somebody sitting at a
desk in some office, who isn't a professional, doesn't think the
nests or stay is required. My doctor was finaly able to get
approval for me to see a neurologist that specializes in pain. I
have a lot of faith in him. He talks to me and doesn't make me
feel like I'm coming from left field when I tell him I have a
burning, pain, like electrical shocks. He understands.!!!!! If
you know where I'm coming from You will understand. It is so
frustrating and embarressing when "professionals" look
at you like you are a hypochrondiac. My spelling may be off, but
I'm sure you all know what I'm sayinng. There is no pain like
this. I was burned when I was a child, nearly died, spent a year
in the hospital. Had my burned skin pulled off with tweezers,
That was painful, awful pain that you never forget and remember
everytime you see a fire or feel heat from one, but this is
worse. It consumes your whole mind. I started with my gums and
mouth, then my face and head. Trying to describe a pain in the
head--that is not a headache-- They look at yoou like your nuts,
anyhow, the pain has getting worse. The vision in my right eye
has gotten so bad. The doctor says the signals from my brain are
being detoured, or to that effect. The right eye isn't working
with the left eye. I have blurred, double vision. I've worn
glasses since I was 8. Now glasses hurt my face and head where
they touch. I'm having some pain in my lower extremeties, now.
which may be caused from my meds. But what can I do but take
them. maybe they will work if given time. I hope and pray it is
so. The neurologist has mentioned that I may require surgery, but
the thought that I may never again feel my grandchild kiss my
cheek is not an incouraging thought. I was on tegratol, now am on
neurontin. I'm having a problem with swelling which is a side
affect of neurontin. I pray for a day that I might be pain free.
My family are mostly very supportive, but time has numbed their
understanding and tollerance. I would answer any and all e-mail.
I pray for all who are affected personaly or someone they know.
It is a good feeling to know that I'm not alone, thought I
wouldn't wish this condition on a dead dog!!! I'm sorry for
bbeing long=winded. I tend to be so when it is subject I'm
emotional about. My address is lets@cosmoslink.net Please mail me
so we can get this condition known about by the people who make
all of the laws and can help others in the future. I am sincerely
yours, Lauretta Pendergraft of Buena Park, Calif.
lauretta ppendergraft
california, USA -
Hi - I have waited a long time to make this entry and I
have started to make it many times! I had atypical facial pain
last fall but I have been pain free since October 24. I have
waited to see if the pain would come back, and I know it is
early, but it hasn't - and I wanted to share my experience. Maybe
it will help. My history is remarkable for bilateral traumatic
TMJ I suffered in a car wreck in '91 and for which I have taken
Nortriptyline (similar to amitriptyline) and Flexeril nightly
ever since. I have daily headaches which are certainly
manageable, although I sometimes take a NSAID for them. Last
summer, I began having very sensitive teeth on the upper left
side. A lot of pressure and temperature sensitivity. I had some
fillings repaired, but the pain worsened all summer. In August, I
began having horrible facial pain down the left side of my face
involving the outer rim of the eye, the left front facial area,
all left upper teeth, and a portion of the left lower teeth. I
would attributed it to TMJ except for the teeth. I began having
buccal nerve blocks in the mouth which lasted about 4 hours, and
one of the oral surgeons told me I had TN and put me on Tegretol.
I saw an dental pain specialist and had was told that I had TN
and that my teeth were especially good conductors of current. I
began NSAIDS and naracotic pain releivers in addition to the
Tegretol. I had all crowns on the upper left side cut off and the
roots examined. One root that looked suspicious got a root canal.
I then saw my Neurologist in September and scheduled an
appointment with a neurosurgeon for October. The pain steadily
worsened from occurring only at night to occurring all of the
time. I had been able to hide the details from my family until
then. They knew I hurt badly, but I would retreat to my room and
bury my face in a pillow until the pain abated. Sometimes it
would take hours. My attacks generally lasted 2-4 hours during
which there would be pain spikes as often as every 5 minutes. I
used NSAIDS although I knew they did not work (I am a pharmacist)
but hoped to stave off TMJ complications. I used many feedback,
psycological, and remote stimuli techniques many times with
limited success. I used counterpressure and pressure points with
limited success. I went to the emergency room 5 times in 6 weeks.
I discovered that chronic pain is not very welcome there. I did
receive excellent treatment from one ER doc whose aunt had TN. I
had 2 panorex facial X-rays, an MRI, a CAT, and many skull
X-rays. My neurologist advanced me through Darvocet N100 and
Percocet which are toxic for me at chronic high doses to
immediate release morphine (MSRI) which I took in fairly frequent
doses to little relief - that surprised me to the point that I
became very discouraged about the prospect of any pain relief. I
did use topical lidocaine 2% viscous on my gums, tongue roof of
my mouth which provided some numbing of the worse pain if applied
early enough. I saw the neurosurgeon in October with the prospect
of a gamma knife procedure to "decompress the trigeminal
nerve". She sent me back to gather more medical history and
documentation and rescheduled for November. I had made it clear
to her that I would consider the gamma knife, but would
definitely go for cutting the nerve if nothing worked. By late
October, I had attacks all night and many during the day. They
were so frequent that I knew I would have to stop working soon if
for no other reason than I could get no sleep. My neurologist had
put me on Neurontin 1800mg/day and increased the Tegretol to
long-acting, 1200mg/day. These also made me sleepy and I often
had to pull over on the 20mi drive home after work to nap! In
late October, in one night, I took 120mg of MRSI over 6 hours of
intense facial pain attacks to absolutely no relief. The next
afternoon, I had a very bad attack in front of my husband who
promptly took me to the ER even though I told him they probably
could not do much for me and that it would probably spontaneously
resolve if I waited a few more minutes (I mumbled this into a
pillow I was biting to keep from screaming). At the ER, my
neurologist was called to see me there. We told him about the
worsening pain and the ineffective morphine. We asked about
different kinds of chronic narcotic pain relief. After
ascertaining that I was seeing the neurosurgeon, he put me on
Dilaudid 1-2mg every 3-4 hours and told me to take them BEFORE
the pain got rolling. I started that afternoon and worked with
the dosing and breakthrough attacks for 24 hours before finding
2mg every 2-3 hours worked best. I took it around the clock and
in another 48 hours, the pain was gone the attacks stopped. I
reduced the dose and regimen over the next few days to 2mg 3
times a day without any attacks. I my neurosurgeon and told him
and with his guidance, continued a maintainance dose at that
level until all of my dental work was repaired and I had seen the
neurosurgeon. When I saw the neurosurgeon 2 weeks later, I told
her of the "cure". She as well cautioned me to continue
dosing until my dental work was adequately repaired. I asked
about the gamma knife procedure was told that she had recently
reviewed the results of the procedures she had done and had
concluded that for my kind of pain - atypical, the procedure did
not work. The only surgical course would have been damage or
cutting of the nerve. As I no longer had any attacks, she
discharged me from her care. I decreased my dose of Dilaudid
until I was completely off the narcotics by the end of November.
I went through a physical withdrawal which I thought was a bad
case of the flu. 8 hours of stuffy head, vomiting and diarrhea -
I have had worse with a cold and food poisoning. By the middle of
January, I had stepped down off of the Tegretol and Neurontin. I
have been pain-free since October 24. I have been discharged from
the care of my neurologist. And while I will always fear any
little twinge of pain in that nerve, and any little dental zing
on that side, I know what had worked for me and what to do. Some
things to point out that helped. I kept a diary/logbook of my
days because no one would believe how painful and horrible it was
if I didn't document it. I documented the time, the pattern of
pain, when any meds were taken and their effect, the course of
the pain attack, the resolution, and noted all times associated
with these and any circumstances that may have kicked off the
attack or affected its course. I tried many non- drug treatments
several times and documented the effect of each one. I provided
past medical history, past X-rays, anything the doctors wanted -
and they wanted a lot of stuff. I tried to have enormous patience
- I knew few would treat chronic pain especially neurological
pain aggressively (you can't see the cause and have to rely on
the patient for evidence). I fully expected to have to have the
nerve cut. I consider my cure to be no less than a miracle, but
would begin the therapy again in an instant if the atypical TN
returns. And it may. I think that for me, dental problems are the
sensitizer for that nerve. The longterm TMJ hightens the nerve
sensitivity in the entire region. It is likely that dental work
on that side in the future will kick it off again. My plan is to
have progressive root canal work done on the upper left side
until all teeth there have been root canaled. Yes, the pain was
that bad that I would do some preventitive nerve destruction. I
will keep my logs and diary so that I can spot the trend more
easily. And I will take VERY GOOD CARE OF MY TEETH and WEAR MY
MOUTH SPLINT EVERY NIGHT for the TMJ to avoid aggravation of the
nerves in that area. I hope this has helped. God knows it was a
horrible time. I remember asking the neurosurgeon to cut the
trigeminal nerve at the second branch so the pain would stop. She
said that I would have no feeling in that side of my face and I
might never smile again. I said yes, but I would be smiling
inside. If I can help you, please write to my e-mail. I am very
slow to check my mail (I am back to work more than full time now)
and slow to answer - please be patient with me. And thank you for
your time. Alice (alix21@aol.com).
alice <alix21@aol.com>
Norman, OK USA - Tuesday, March 09, 1999 at 23:59:46 (PST)
What a wonderful place!I'M 49 & have TN 9 yr.Am new to
computers & TN was the first thing I looked for!Would love to
chat wth others.This has opened a whole new world me.THANKS!!!!!
Linda Bragg <LBRAGG6918@AOL.COM>
Macon, Ga USA - Tuesday, March 09, 1999 at 18:20:11 (PST)
Hi i`m 37 years old and have had TN for 14 years,4 of those
years no one knew what it was.I have it on both sides of my
face,and have had it go into remission twice.It`s now back and
the doctor said it`s here to stay the PAIN is more intence than
ever. I`m on LIORESL,TEGRETOL and ELAVIL to help me through the
day. At the moment it`s working but I`m always worried of the day
the meds stop working. This problem has cost me a relationship.
I`m glad to find out that i`m not alone in this battle. Has any
one had good luck with a surgery,I wood like to know.
PHILIP <oz144@aol.com>
MI USA - Thursday, March 04, 1999 at 17:16:08 (PST)
What a relief, and sad too, that so many suffer from this
affliction. I have had this atypical tnn for well over 20 years.
I was wrongly diagnosed with with MS while still in my 20's.
After 3 years and a spinal tap the doctors said it was some type
of neurological "thing". Then the facial pain began.
Electrical shocks on the left side down to the teeth, but after 2
or 3 weeks ending with an outbreak of blisters inside of my left
nostril. I then had a root canal on the left incisor upper tooth,
which became infected. After treatment, the facial pain came
back. While teaching school on an Army Base in Germany, I had a
severe attack beginning in my left ear, which left me reeling for
I had no sense of balance. I will say, the German doctors are
thorough. I spent 2 weeks in 2 hospitals, one eye, ear and throat
where they checked for sinus problems, and then to the
neurological clinic where I was given another spinal tap, MRI,
and numerous other tests. The doctors there thought the source
was viral, either herpes or the type that causes chicken pox or
shingles. My train of thought is breaking up, because I'm having
another pain attack. My question is, Does anyone that has
atypical tnn get relief from these surgeries. My neurologist says
he cannot help me anymore medically because I cannot tolerate the
drugs, I've been on all of them.. Acyclovir did stop the pain for
months, but I'm afraid it is not effective anymore. Would love to
know if anyone else has been told they have this viral
connection. Gloria
Gloria Blair Gaddis <gloria@k-online.com>
San Diego, CA USA - Wednesday, March 03, 1999 at 19:59:32 (PST)
Testing new domain
Michael
USA - Tuesday, March 02, 1999 at 20:41:15 (PST)
I have only had relief, after 6 years of TN, with Lamictal.
Has anyone else had success with this drug?
phyllis <pcox@sscc.cc.tn.us>
memphis, tn USA - Friday, February 26, 1999 at 19:51:15 (PST)
I was just diagnosed with Tn if someone could E-Mail me
some information on it I would greatly appreciate it I am only 19
years old.
Rachael <Alexis_98_2@yahoo.com>
PA USA - Friday, February 26, 1999 at 12:23:35 (PST)
Hi my name is Nancy Foster and i am 25 years old. I
stumbled across this website today and was very glad. I was
diagnosed around 5 years ago with GLOSSOPHARYNGEAL NEURALGIA.. I
have suffered from the symptoms for 10 years. I get extreme pain
on the left side of my throat and into my ear. Very painful to
swallow or move my head at all. I went through many doctors and
specialists. Finally in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada an emergency
doctor diagnosed me. Although it was bad news it relieved my
frustration, since every other doctor told me it was just an
earache, sore throat or muscle spasms. It is great to know there
is other people to communicate with, because like me iam sure you
go through the trouble of NOBODY understanding. I now take
Tegretol everyday to PREVENT the attacks. I haven't had a major
one since July 1 1998. I am greatful, and i hope it continues to
be successful for me. If anyone with the similar pain would like
to talk please email anytime. I am willing to share my comments
and hope you will too. email nancylfoster@yahoo.com
Nancy Foster <nancylfoster@yahoo.com>
Calgary, Ab Cananda - Thursday, February 25, 1999 at 06:59:21
(PST)
I have been suffering from TN type syptoms for 10mos now.
I'm on my 3rd medication now this one seems to help without alot
of side effects. I saw the neurosurgeon last week and I 'm scared
to death of the thought of surgery. If this medication keeps
helping me to make the pain tolerable I guess I will just wait a
while. I'm only 34 yrs old and a mother of 2 small children. The
neurosurgeon isn't hundred percent that the surgery will help
because I'm not showing all the typical signs of TN because my
pains are very random and are not always caused by a trigger. But
they are in the general area of the trigeminal nerve. Thanks for
listening to me I'm not always sure people who don't have this
pain understand how painful it is. My husband really tries to
understand but I think he is starting to get aggravated that no
one seems to have a answer for my problem .
Tammy Kozlowski <tdjnk1989@aol.com>
Chgo. Hts., Il USA - Thursday, February 25, 1999 at 06:43:08
(PST)
Hi, I'm Brenda and I have Trigeminal Neuralgia. I am having
a hard time right now with the pain. I went to the doctor and he
put me back on Neurontin, go for another MRI next week. It's
reassuring to know I'm not alone in this condition, most people
can't comprehend what you are going through. Would love to hear
from anyone. tazsuz@yahoo.com
Brenda Dorn <tazsuz@yahoo.com>
Saluda, SC USA - Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 13:08:13 (PST)
Hello. My name is Nancy Foster and i was diagnosed with
GLOSSOPHARYNGEAL NEURALGIA around 5 years ago, although i have
suffered symptoms for 10 years. I experience excrutiating pain in
my throat and continues into my ear, and is always on the left
side. It is very nice to know i have some people to talk to. Like
all of you iam sure NOBODY understands the pain. I went through
many doctors and specialists. I was always told it was just
" an earache, sore throat, or muscle spasms." After
years of frustration i was finally diagnosed by an emergency
doctor in Regina Saskatchewan, Canada. Although it was bad news
and i didn't really understand, at least it relieved some of the
frustration. I was taking TEGRETOL whenever an attack occured,
but was later told i must me taking it everyday to actually
PREVENT the attacks. I haven't had a major attack since July1
1998. Tegretol seems to be working and iam greatful for it. I
luckily have had no real side effects. I would love to hear from
anyone who has the same effects. Your comments would be greatly
appreciated, as well iam willing to share any information. THANKS
LOTS for the website. Email anytime nancylfoster@yahoo.com
Nancy Foster <nancylfoster@yahoo.com>
Calgary, ab Canada - Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 11:53:12
(PST)
Sorry everyone my message left the wrong email address It
is nancylfoster@yahoo.com Would love to hear your comments
Nancy Foster <nancylfoster@yahoo.com>
calgary, ab canada - Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 11:35:47
(PST)
Hi. My name is Nancy Foster. I stumbled across this website
today and was very relieved to be able to communicate with others
that have the same disorder. I was diagnosed with
GLOSSOPHARYNGEAL NEURALGIA around 5 years ago, although i have
suffered symptoms for about 10 years. I experience excrutiating
pain that occurs on the left side of my throat and continues into
the ear. Like most of you, you may had to go through the same
frustrations as me = going to see many different doctors and
specialists. I found it very hard to deal with the whole thing
because nobody could ever tell me what was wrong. I would get the
usual " you just have a sore thraot, earache or muscle
spasms in the neck. It was very frustrating. I finally got
diagnosed by an emergency doctor in Regina, Saskatchewan. Canada.
Although it was bad news at least it relieved some of the
frustration. I haven't had a major attack since July 1 1998. I
was told to take TEGRETOL whenever i got an attack, but was told
by a specialist to take it everyday to actually PREVENT the
attacks. So far it seems to be working. I would like to hear from
anyone who is taking Tegretol. I have had no real side effects
which iam greatful for. It is very refreshing to know that there
is people out there to talk to. NOBODY has ever seemed to
understand the pain, except for obviously the people that have it
to. Please feel free to email me anytime i would love to hear any
comments, and i am more than willing to share my experiences as
well. THANKS UNCONDITIONALLY for this website. my email
nancylfoster@yahoo.com
Nancy Foster <nancylfoster@yahoo.com>
Calgary, ab Canada - Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 11:34:01
(PST)
Deborah, Here is my E-Mail address. Thanks!
Barb <sours@juno.com>
USA - Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 07:49:00 (PST)
Barb and all others....If you would like to have me reply
to you, please put your email address on your entries or email me
directly. I would love to talk to you....signed, Deborah, owner
of this web site.
Deborah Creps <deborah@creps.org>
CA USA - Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 18:47:10 (PST)
Thanks for such an informative page! I have had severe pain
in the left side of my face and temple region for about 6 years
now. My pain has been diagnosed as cluster migraine. Last year I
went to a pain specialist who told me that my pain was Trigeminal
Neuralgia. My pain now shoots from my left temple down across my
cheek and to my nose. The top row of teeth feel like they will
fall out because the pain is bad. I have numbness across my
cheek. It is hard to eat and apply makeup. When I try to brush my
teeth I hit a trigger zone that sends me into excruciating pain.
My Neurologist still says it is Migraine and will not give me a
definite diagnosis of Trigeminal Neuralgia. He did start me on
Tegretol and the pain did not get a lot better so he added
Neurontin too. Any suggestions on how to get a definite diagnosis
of Trigeminal Neuralgia? I have the classic symptoms. Thanks!
Barb
USA - Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 18:05:45 (PST)
I'd like to begin by saying my thoughts and prayers go out
to those of you with TN. Two people very close to me have it.
It's a horrible, horrible stupid affliction that anyone should
have to bear. My father-in-law suffered for years, finally had
the nerve cut. He's doing great now. My best friends's aunt also
has TN. She has had several procedures and tried all meds.
Nothing works. She has been suffering like a dog for about 11
years. Knowing 2 people with this dreaded disease, and being so
familiar with it, it could never happen to me......Feb.of 98 I
woke up and the right side of my face, nose, tongue, teeth and
gums were numb. Beign 36 and always healthy I ignored it.Two
weeks later, I went to the doc and was treated for sinus
infection. Two weeks later, no better I went to ENT doc. Sinuses
are great. The numbness got worse, not a dead numb, a feeling
numb like my face is jumping across the street. By mid March the
pains started coming, small at first. Went to a Neurologist. I
was diagnosed with Trigeminal Sensory Neuropathy. It's different
than TN because fo the numbness. Between March and June I was on
Neurontin, Tegritol, Elavil, Tylenol 3, Demerol, maybe others I
don't remember. Every day the pain got worse and worse.(I don't
have to tell you about pain). It got into my ear and down my
throat. Unlike TN in between lightning pains, the other pain in
ear, throat and mouth was constant. The pain would knock me to
the ground. I could only eat cantaloupe, watermelon, and ice
cream, at room temperature for weeks. In desperation I went to a
chiropractor referred to me by friends. After about 6 visits I
was off all meds. I have some pain. What I do have all the time
is the numb burning vibrating feelings inside my cheek, tongue,
lips. Also my nose feels like it's stuffed with cotton. and my
tongue and throat feel as though I am licking sand. He says
that's another branch of the trigeminal nerve. This may sound
kind of stupid but even kissing is kind of gone. I'm 37 I like
kissing.The doc says TSN is very rare. I have found very little
info on it (tons on TN). He also says the nrve may or may not
regenerate itself over a period of years to not at all. I think
that they don't have a clue. I'm telling you my story because I'm
just another person who understands what you are going through
and I am hoping someone out there knows(I don't want to say has)
some way somehow about my condition or just that I am not alone.
After you've tried all the meds, before the procedures, seek
other alternatives..Chripractor, Accupuncture,Accupressure. There
are other ways that work. Just make sure they are reputable. Good
luck and thank you for your time. Lori
Lori <lyann309@aol.com>
Langhorne, PA USA - Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 03:38:15 (PST)
I was diagnosed with TN last October, a month after
undergoing an angioplasty. I have had what I thought was sinus
problems for the last two and a half years, but now am not so
sure. I have TN in the second region on the left side of my face.
I have constantant soreness in the root of an upper tooth, and
thought it was a cracked root, but after reading all your stories
I'm not so sure that the tooth is really the problem. The root is
sore regardless of the occurrence of TN pain. I am taking
tegretol but recently reduced the amount from 600mg daily to
300mg. I'm trying to get an MVD operation scheduled, but the
neurosurgeon says he doesn't like to do that unless the pain is
no longer controllable by medication. But then he goes on to say
that the pain WILL BE UNCONTROLLABLE after one to two years, so
why doesn't he schedule me for the operation? I've heard very
good things about the results of an MVD procedure and am anxious
to have it done.
Frank Badder <mrspappy@codenet.net>
Colorado Springs, CO USA - Monday, February 22, 1999 at 16:42:48
(PST)
I have had TN for almost 9 yrs. Iam currently taking
Amitriptylin(I think that's how it's spelled) I am on a very high
dose of it and it has become very addictive. The TN is much less
severe, but I would rather not take a handful of pills every day.
I have also been diagnosed with MS, pseudo-tumor cerebrei,
Epstein-Barr Syndrome, and migraine headaches. I am only 32yrs
old and feel much beyond my years. My husband and I have 5
children,and I can't physically, keep up with. Reading stories at
this site has already made me feel better, just to know someone
with my same problems. No one can really comprehend it unless
they've felt it. Thanks for letting me go on!
Joanie <wrpowers@wctc.net>
Wisconsin Rapids, WI USA - Monday, February 22, 1999 at 07:49:17
(PST)
Lori, hope you are having a good day. Our love to all of
you. Are you still on Tegretol? It is just so amazing to be able
to view the many problems people are having. Mary has burning,
numbness and after three surgeries it is hard to believe anything
can work. Anyone else out there having allergic reactions to some
of the medicines being prescribed. God bless all of you hope you
have a good weekend.
pat <joepategan@earthlink.net>
san diego, USA - Friday, February 19, 1999 at 19:18:04 (PST)
I have had trigeminal neuralgia for 3 years and I have had
4 teeth pulled due to this problem, before they diagnosed me.
Just looking for someone else who has the same problem to talk
to.
Nancy Gibbs <gibbsnancy@aol.com>
USA - Friday, February 19, 1999 at 17:12:59 (PST)
Hi Mrs Egan. I hope everyone is well. I finally took the
time to write about my condition and aol has a habit of
disconnecting you for no reason. Anyone out there, its called
Trigeminal Sensory Neuropathy. Same nerve different disease. I'll
explain my story later when I have the time.Anyone reading this
today, I hope you are having a good day.
Lori <lyann309@aol.com>
Langhorne, PA USA - Friday, February 19, 1999 at 07:03:23 (PST)
My husband has suffered from Trigeminal Neuralgia since
1993 and it has increasingly gotten worse over the years. He has
taken all of the known medications available and is now
recovering from a very severe allergic reaction to Tegretol. He
is going to the University of Pittsbutgh Medical Center on
2/23/99 to see Dr, Peter J. Jannetta and have the Microvascular
Decompression procedure done. We are wondering if there is anyone
out there that might give us any reason he should not have this
done. He has suffered with this pain for so long that he is
willing to try anything, if it will help. Thank you in advance
for any information you might give us. Please e-mail
RCoontz234@AOL.Com
Ruth Coontz <RCoontz234@AOL.Com>
Belington, WV USA - Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 16:20:49 (PST)
Hi, to Lori, hope you are finding some info on this site. I
am going to tell Mary about Lamictal. It is really a learning
experience to read all the data on this page. I pray for all of
you daily. Hopefully we will find an answer.
pat <joepategan@earthlink.com>
san diego , USA - Monday, February 15, 1999 at 14:56:19 (PST)
My father has been diagnosed with Trigeminal Neuralgia and
is having quite a bit of trouble at this time. I was trying to
find any information on it that I could.
Bobbi Atkinson <atkinsonbc@itlnet.net
or batkinson@transok.com>
Elk City, OK USA - Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 13:18:17 (PST)
I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has had the
alcohol treatment. My mother has been suffering for so long and
finally after baclafin(?)and neurontin she wants the alcohol
treatment. I would appreciate anyone who has had this treatment
and if it works. Thanks
carol larkin <clarkin@afgnet.com>
Boston, MA USA - Monday, February 08, 1999 at 09:33:34 (PST)
I have been suffrering with TN for about 6 years. At first
I thought it was sinus problems and so did some local doctor who
prescribed antibiotics which caused there own infections to fight
because I did not have one of my own. My wife then talked me into
seeing a real doctor who when hearing all of the symptoms became
excited about discovering something he had only read about. he
refered me to neurophysician who refered me to a neurosurgen who
recommended medication instead of risky surgery. I am currently
on 800mg of tegretol and 4 doses per day of rivotril. It helps
eventualy . I can only thank my wife and family for there support
in dealing with the pain because I suppose it upsets them to see
but not feel the pain. I would like to close by sending my best
wishes to each and every one of you ,good luck and bye for now
Kevin Brew <kbrew@eisa.net.au>
Melbourne, VIC Australia - Sunday, February 07, 1999 at 01:44:34
(PST)
I have been suffrering with TN for about 6 years. At first
I thought it was sinus problems and so did some local doctor who
prescribed antibiotics which caused there own infections to fight
because I did not have one of my own. My wife then talked me into
seeing a real doctor who when hearing all of the symptoms became
excited about discovering something he had only read about. he
refered me to neurophysician who refered me to a neurosurgen who
recommended medication instead of risky surgery. I am currently
on 800mg of tegretol and 4 doses per day of rivotril. It helps
eventualy . I can only thank my wife and family for there support
in dealing with the pain because I suppose it upsets them to see
but not feel the pain. I would like to close by sending my best
wishes to each and every one of you ,good luck and bye for now
Kevin Brew <kbrew@eisa.net.au>
Melbourne, VIC Australia - Sunday, February 07, 1999 at 01:42:11
(PST)
Ihave been suffrering with TN for about 6 years. At first I
thought it was sinus problems and so did some local doctor who
prescribed antibiotics which caused there own infections to fight
because I did not have one of my own. My wife then talked me into
seeing a real doctor who when hearing all of the symptoms became
excited about discovering something he had only read about. he
refered me to neurophysician who refered me to a neurosurgen who
recommended medication instead of risky surgery. I am currently
on 800mg of tegretol and 4 doses per day of rivotril. It helps
eventualy . I can only thank my wife and family for there support
in dealing with the pain because I suppose it upsets them to see
but not feel the pain. I would like to close by sending my best
wishes to each and every one of you ,good luck and bye for now
Kevin Brew <kbrew@eisa.net.au>
Melbourne, VIC Australia - Sunday, February 07, 1999 at 01:41:32
(PST)
Ihave been suffrering with TN for about 6 years. At first I
thought it was sinus problems and so did some local doctor
whoprescribed antibiotics which caused there own infections to
fight because I did not have one of my own. My wife then talked
me into seeing a real doctor who when hearing all of the symptoms
became excited about discovering something he had only read
about. he refered me to neurophysician who refered me to a
neurosurgen who recommended medication instead of risky surgery.
I am currently on 800mg of tegretol and 4 doses per day of
rivotril. It helps eventualy . I can only thank my wife and
family for there support in dealing with the pain because I
suppose it upsets them to see but not feel the pain. I would like
to close by sending my best wishes to each and every one of you
,good luck and bye for now. kbrew@eisa.net.au
Kevin Brew <kbrew@eisa.net.au>
Melbourne, VIC Australia - Sunday, February 07, 1999 at 01:34:45
(PST)
I just found out I have TN,we found mine early thank god,I
hated not knowing the cause of my pain. If its on the left side
of my head and face it hurts! I cried when I read all of youre
stories,Im sorry for us all. I have done the dentist,and many
doctors also, it was very frustrating.This website is a blessing
thank you!!
Dawn <dawno_j@yahoo.com>
O.K. USA - Wednesday, February 03, 1999 at 17:20:11 (PST)
I was recently diagnosed with Glossopharangeal Neuralgia.
You name a type of doctor and I'm sure I have been there. My
neurologist wants to start me on tegretal but I have heard so
many bad things about it that I am very nervous about taking this
drug. I have decided to try acupuncture for a little while to see
if I can get any relief without the meds. I have had one
treatment so far and my 2nd is tomorrow. The experience was quite
painful. I didn't think acupuncture was suppose to hurt. But I
will endure it if it helps. If anyone out there has tried this
approach I would love to hear from you.
Tina Petrakis <tpatrak1@tampabay.rr.com>
USA - Monday, February 01, 1999 at 10:59:41 (PST)
test
Mike
USA - Monday, February 01, 1999 at 09:06:49 (PST)
After 5+ years with TN, I have had nearly a year with no
pain, due to Lamictal. I have tried all of the medications others
have mentioned, but this is the first long-term relief I have had
since March, 1993. I have had absolutely no side effects-I can
even stay awake during the day!
phyllis
memphis, tn USA - Friday, January 29, 1999 at 22:33:14 (PST)
TESTING GUESTBOOK
Lori <LYANN309@AOL.COM>
PHILA, PA USA - Friday, January 29, 1999 at 15:24:14 (PST)
Hi Bobbe Dina in Las Vegas. I've tried to send e-mail, but
it's not going through, I hope you see this and please send me
e-mail again so that I may get your address correct. I definitely
want to share my experience with T.N. with you. Thanks, Pam
Pamela Cato <P_cato@wfec.com>
OK USA - Monday, January 25, 1999 at 13:30:24 (PST)
Thank-you so much for this site Deb and everyone telling
your story. I sure can relate. I to thought I was going nuts with
TN which I have had about 7 or 8 years now but finally trying to
find what meds work for me in the last year when I finally found
a Doc that said I wasnt nuts. It started out like an earache then
I thought it was my jaw. Yes I too went to ENT Denist even spent
300 for the mouth piece for TMJ didnt work finaly. I have been on
3 meds like everyone else and this last one Tegreol has awful
side effects I cant take. I just stopped it yesterday its only
been 4 days but when I think Im going to crash with my children
in the car cause Im so dizzie forget it. I have consent pain on
the right side of my face feels like its right behind the ear
sometimes the whole side of my face. It neverrrrr stops sometimes
it hurts really bad. The only time it gives me a break is when I
sleep. I have taken pain pills and they help but being a
recoveing alcoholic of 14 years and my husband reminding my Doc I
shouldnt take them he wont prescibe them now and I dont need
another addiction. What else can I take for some releaf thats not
narcotic??? If anyone knows please tell me! Yes I take tyenol all
day. I hate this.. Im thinking of of the Decompression I did buy
the cream just yesterday Capsaicin and will try this. Well thanks
for reading my story and its great that we can try to share the
different ways we would all like to get better. Im so glad to
read postive things that are working. Oh and yes I have had the
x-rays mri catsan too. Thanks again all.
Cheri <cherit52@aol.com>
coral springs, fla USA - Monday, January 25, 1999 at 06:12:17
(PST)
I have been in varying degrees of pain since Feb.98. In
December I finally received the diagnosis of TN. I went to a
chiropracter who recognized my symptons and referred me to a
wonderful neurologist. It was so terrific to be setting in front
of a doctor who said everything I was telling him made perfect
sense. Every other doctor I had seen looked at my like I was
insane because I had such a wide variety of complaints-stabbing
pain along the left side of my nose, a twisting, tight feeling in
my scalp, throbbing pain around my eye and electric running along
my outer jaw and ear area. I was beginning to feel insane, as if
this pain could not possible exist because no doctor could
validate it. It is so helpful to read all these stories and hear
from others that this pain is not imaginary. I'm sorry so many of
you are sufferring too but I know it is so comforting to and
educational to share our experiences. In the last few weeks my
pain has been very intense-I am frequently unable to concentrate
at work, I'm sleeping propped up the couch so I don't have lay my
face on a pillow. I am trying to remain optimistic but it is
quite discouraging some days and I feel it is wearing me down. My
neurologist has told me to stay hopeful because there are so many
things we haven't tried yet. I am currently taking 2400 mg of
Neurontin daily but have not noticed any improvement. The pain is
so unpredictable-gone for awhile (I relish every painfree
day!!!!!!!!!) and then boom-there it is and your whole world just
falls apart. So how do you know when something is working???-Did
the pain just disappear or is something actually working? One
very positive thing is my neurologist has asked me to allow a
class he teaches (about 40 doctors) set in on our next
appointment so they can be more aware of TN and hopefully make a
quick diagnosis. If they correctly diagnosis only one person who
otherwise may have sufferred for months without hope I will be
happy. I find this is really hard to explain to people so noone
can really understand the degree of the pain-you are walking
around looking healthy as can be, so it hard for people to
imagine the disabling pain. I have been using Zostrix cream for
about 1 week and feel somewhat hopeful it helping a
little-although the burning of the cream is extremely
uncomfortable itself. I hope all you find the peace you need,
whether in dealing with the pain or dealing with the curing of
the pain. I really believe there is a cure out there for each and
every one of us-it will just be a different cure or combination
of cures!! Keep searching for yours-and keep writing. Thank you
for this site-it has been a life saver.
kay <summitlouk.aol>
des moines, ia USA - Sunday, January 24, 1999 at 22:24:25 (PST)
To Sharon in England, I have had TN for five years and have
been successfully treated in England recently. If I can help with
advice or support I will. just email me at georgelec@msn.com
George <georgelec@msn.com>
Guernsey, UK - Sunday, January 24, 1999 at 12:36:01 (PST)
Thank heavens for this site, my father suffers TN in the
3rd region and is in excrutiating pain presently , he has been
taken off tegretol and is now on garbapentine with kapak and we
have added nurofen as voltorol injection at the hospital
emergency worked. he see's the consultant on wednesday 27.1.99
for second time he is recommending glycerol injection as my dad
is 70yrs old with Left ventricular failure and bi lateral pleural
thickening of the lungs due to asbestosis. As an ex nurse and
mental health social worker i feel totally useless in helping his
pain. Ihave never seen my dad cry and scream or any other human
being suffer so terribly as this awful affliction which depresses
individuals who are normally outgoing and live active lives in to
isolated individuals who are afraid to bump into friends because
they cannot speak for the pain. Thank you everyone for sharing
your experiences, my dad will read these and hopefully i will of
helped him feel a litle less isolated.
Sharon
England - Saturday, January 23, 1999 at 16:58:12 (PST)
I HAD MY FIRST ATTACK IN THE SPRING OF 1996. I TOOK 18
MONTHS TO GET ANYONE TO LISTEN TO ME MY PCP FINALLY REFERRED ME
TO A NEUROLOGIST I FAILED THE TEGRETOL/DILANTIN APPROACH SINCE I
WORK AT ONE OF THE LARGEST HOSPITALS IN THE USA I BEGAN DOING
SOME READING IN OUR MEDICAL LIBRARY AND FOUND OUT ABOUT GAMMA
KNIFE RADIOSURGERY. WE HAVE A GAMMA KNIFE FACILITY HERE AT
METHODIST HOSPITAL IN MEMPHIS TN. I HAD MY SURGERY 11/4/97. IT
HAS TAKEN TIME, BUT I HAVE GOTTEN TREMENDOUS RELIEF FROM MY TN I
HAVE OCCASIONAL ATTACKS BUT THEY ARE NOT AS SEVERE AND DO NOT
LAST AS LONG I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS TREATMENT TO ANYONE. IT'S
DONE ON AN OUT-PATIENT BASIS, AND MOST INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL
COVER IT. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN MORE INFORMATION WRITE TO THE
MEMPHIS REGIONAL GAMMA KNIFE CENTER DAVID CUNNINGHAM MD, MEDICAL
DIRECTOR 220 S CLAYBROOK MEMPHIS TN 38104
M REECE
USA - Friday, January 22, 1999 at 13:58:20 (PST)
I'm interested in info regarding acupuncture in the
treatment on TN. I have been on tegretol and unable to tolerate
the side effect, nerotin with no results and as of last
night,dilantin. At this point, I am willing to do ANYTHING to
relieve my pain. If anyone has any information PLEASE contact me.
Lili <mama10@aol.com>
St. Louis, USA - Friday, January 22, 1999 at 08:39:22 (PST)
To Nancy who just posted on glossophyngeal neuralgia. Would
like to e-mail you but you posted the wrong address. If you would
like to chat about GPN, can you post the correct e-mail address.
Thanks, Margaret
Margaret
USA - Friday, January 22, 1999 at 07:30:42 (PST)
Just an update. I am now in my sixth pain-free month,
thanks to CAPSAICIN cream. I am still applying it regularly and I
haven't had a twinge of pain. I am taking no other drugs, and
have had no surgeries. I encourage everyone to try it! It may
work for you. It's inexpensive, available at your local drug
store without a prescription. I use the .05% strength. Cheers,
everyone.
Barbara Martin <thabar@hotmail.com>
London, ON Canada - Wednesday, January 20, 1999 at 16:39:53 (PST)
Hi! My name is Nancy. I am 44 years old, and was so
thankful to find this site and information.I have never been on
the web before, but I thank God that I found this. I did feel
like I was all alone with this pain that I have had for 10 years,
with no help or relief. After seeing every kind of Dr., I was
told I had Glossopharangeal Neuralgia. I had MVD surgery Nov.23rd
of 98. No relief what-so-ever. They are now talking about putting
in a morphine pump in my brain artery. I am not sure of this. I
would like any information that anyone might have on this, or has
had this procedure done. I am more leary of this than I was the
surgery. Please respond.
Nancy <www.SGFly@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, January 20, 1999 at 09:10:31 (PST)
I HAVE HAD TN SINCE 1976 AND WAS NOT DIAGNOSED UNTIL 1986.
I HAD SURGERY TO ZAP THE NERVE AND IT RETURNED TWO YEARS LATER IT
RETURNED. SINCE THEN I HAVE BEEN TAKING TEGRETOL AND IT WORKS.
BUT I HAVE TO TAKE IT WHEN THE IT FIRST STARTS AND IT WILL STOP
UNIL THE NEXT TIME IT COMES UP. MY SEEMS TO START WITH THE CHANGE
FROM WARM TO COLD WEATHER. THE PAIN I HAD BEFORE I WAS DIAGNOSED
WITH TN WAS SEVERE I WOULD DO ANYTHING TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
AWARE OF WHAT IT IS AND AND HOW TO STOP IT.
ROBERT AUCOIN <ROBERT
ACUOIN@ENRON.COM>
HOUSTON, TX USA - Tuesday, January 19, 1999 at 07:54:38 (PST)
Was diagnosed with TN in May, 1997 and took several
different medications including Tegretol and Neurontin. None of
them completely alleviated the pain. Had MV Decompression surgery
in August of 97 and have been pain free since. I have been having
a lot of headaches and ringing in my ears, also dizziness.
Thought it was inner ear trouble. Has anyone else had these
symptoms after TN? I would like to know if it could be related.
Wanda Pilcher <Wickedwjp@aol.com>
Gladewater, Tx. USA - Monday, January 18, 1999 at 18:21:23 (PST)
I have had headaches for 30 years. Until 8 years ago I took
multiple over-the-counter medications. The first doctor I went to
said it was sinus problems. I was on many different medications
including steroids, antibiotics, antihistamines, inhalers, pain
medications, & nothing helped. Several CT Scans on the head
& sinuses were negative. The pain is unbearable. It effects
the entire right side of my face, neck & right side of head
including my teeth, ear. I also get muscle spasms in my face
& neck & numbness in the right arm to my finger tips. It
hurts worse to lie down. When the doctor determined it was not
sinuses, I was sent to a neurologist who do not even listen to my
symptoms. As soon as she found out that my father & sister
had migraines, that became my diagnosis & she prescribed
Inderol. That didn't help either. I was finally sent to a group
of neuro-surgeons in Pittsburgh 3 years ago who made the
diagnosis of TN. He wanted me to try other options before
surgery. I was on 1200 mgm Tegretol a day with no relief. I was
then sent to the pain management clinic. I received multiple
nerve block injections in both my face & neck with only
temporary relief. I went to a Chiropractic with some relief in
the pain, but developed bad muscle spasms in my neck and
shoulders and then the pain returned to daily. I then was sent
for physical therapy, This relieved the muscle spasms & my TN
was only acting up about 2 days a week. But then PT was finished.
Within 2 weeks the pain was back to every day. It even hurts to
chew food and laugh. Right now as I amy typing this the pain is
real bad especially in my face. No prescribed pain medications
have helped. I am thinking seriously about having the surgery
done, but I guess I am afraid.
Elaine Kephart <ekephart@penn.com>
Curwensville, PA USA - Sunday, January 17, 1999 at 15:23:47 (PST)
I was recently diagnosed with Trigeminal Neuralgia and I
also have TMJ which was confirmed by an MRI. Indeed it is
painful, I have had tooth extractions, root canals and now have
periordic numbness and eye problems. This is all on the left side
of my face. I am now taking tegratol and am encouraged that
others share the same problem - at times I felt I must be the
only one with this intense pain which I try to ignore but it is
not possible. Thank you for your web site, it is very important.
Carolyn Kyle
USA - Friday, January 15, 1999 at 20:09:58 (PST)
I have has T.N for the last 2 years. I have never
experienced anything that was more painful. A little history on
this problem. In a mater of a few months I had laryngitis
followed by deafness in right ear caused by sinus. Followed by a
case of the shingles on the left side. While I had shingles, I
developed T.N on the right side of my face. I was then put on
Tegretol, which I was allergic to. I broke out with a case of the
hives and my air passage was closing down. I was then give a
counter to Tegretol tostop the hives. By then the T.N. was
getting unbareable. Somthing had to be done. I was sent to a
neuralsurgeon in Cedar Rapids (Dr. Aberthnaty) in which he
preformed M.V.D ( Microvascalur Decompression). This lasted 3
months. I put up with this pain for 6 months and then went back
the djoctor. We discussed having Glycerol Injection at Mayo
Clinic in Rochester Mn. This procedure was done Jan. 13,1999.
Knowing this is a temporary procedure we are checking into Gamma
Knife or Dividing the Nerve. This to will be done at Mayo. I
would like to know more about these last 2 procedures. Has anyone
heard of the drug Ketamine in the treatment of T.N. I hope that
someday there will be a cure for this dreaded disease. Good luck
to all that have this problem.
Myrna Slack <jmslack@muscanet.com>
Muscatine, Iowa USA - Friday, January 15, 1999 at 13:22:07 (PST)
Nice site on AA. I knew a friend who was
addicted to sleeping pills (over 1 year) he took herbal medicine
(SCULCAP for nervous disorders and addictions) and got off of it.
For those who are christians, I had a addiction of some sort and
the long 15minute rosary prayer I recited and continue to recite
everday somehow after reciting it for a couple weeks I got
partial then after 3 weeks got full control of not doing it
anymore. I have a website devoted to it anyone wants to check it
out print it out give it a try, it does work miracles. Keep up
the good work, I know there is more than one way of treatment of
addiction never give up, try something else til it works.
Jimmy <prayrosary@yahoo.com>
Toronto, ON Canada - Thursday, January 14, 1999 at 23:21:50 (PST)
I have had Trigeminal Neuralgia for ten years. I am 33
years old. I would love to hear from other sufferers.
julie <paul.julie@tesco.net>
USA - Wednesday, January 13, 1999 at 15:13:16 (PST)
I was diagnosed with TN 18 years ago at the age of 30. To
all of you who are suffering or who have suffered from the
unbearable pain of this disease YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Over the years
I've taken just about every medication there is to control the
pain. Finally, in 1994 the pain was not controlled by any
medication. I had to make a very hard decision to have a
Trigeminal Rhazotomy or be incapacitated. The pain was so bad
that I stayed in bed for two weeks hoping and praying the pain
would subside, but it didn't. My life with my husband and 2
daughters wasn't the same and had been really tough over the
years when I would have bouts with TN. My Doctor told me some of
the side effects would be and I decided anything would be better
than living with this horrible pain. On March 10, 1994 I had the
Trigeminal Rhazotomy. When awoke I thought I had made the wrong
decision. The right side of my face is numb, my right eye doesn't
tear anymore. At first I thought this was even worse and it felt
so different I thought everyone would be stareing at me. After a
couple of weeks I realized I could live with the numbness, put
artificial tears in my eye and most of all be without the pain.
My face nor my eye is visibley crippled and the numbness feels
like I've had a big shot from the dentist. When I think about it,
there are so many other different kinds of pain that people live
with and nothing can be done to relieve it. I am just so thankful
that I did go ahead and have this procedure done. Sometime it is
annoying to me, but no one else even notices. Most of all, I have
learned to live with it and I thank God that I am pain free. I
would love to hear from any of you who are suffering or who have
suffered with this most dreadful condition. I've enjoyed reading
all of the many different experiences with TN.
Pam Cato <P_Cato@WFEC.COM>
OK USA - Thursday, January 07, 1999 at 09:48:26 (PST)
I have been suffering 2 years now with pain on the right
side of my throat and in my right ear. I was first diagnosed with
elongated styloids and underwent surgery to have my tonils
removed and the right styloid cut back. Within weeks the pain
returned. It seems to have gotten worse. I have had a CT scan and
MRI and both come up normal. I don't feel normal though. My ENT
feels that it has now developed into Glossopharyngeal Neuralgia.
I am taking pain medicine daily to help. I will be seeing either
a nurologist or a pain management specialist within the next few
days. I do not know a lot about this condition yet except the
pain that is associated with it. I would love to hear from anyone
out there who suffers from this. I would like to find out what
treatments are available. I am a female 36 years of age.
Tina Petrakis <tpatrak1@tampabay.rr.com>
USA - Wednesday, January 06, 1999 at 07:31:45 (PST)
Thanks for the site, what great and rare info! I was diagnosed with TN in July 1993 (at age 35) after a root canal provided no pain relief. I am currently receiving alcohol injections approximately each six months (the last time was eight months) and am taking 400mg teg a day. The alcohol injections are fairly painful themselves, but only for a brief moment. TN pain is controlled! I became seriously interested in a surgical solution after the most recent AI, the injection site ulcerate